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Post by Neil C » Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:26 pm

Another reason to get a UAD card &#40;I was already tempted, people really rave about them, but I really can't afford one&#41; - <BR> <BR><A HREF="http://www.rolandus.com/news/pressdetai ... ressID=372" TARGET="_top">http://www.rolandus.com/news/pressdetai ... sID=372</A>

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Post by Mike Zee » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:51 pm

wow, this Does sond promissing. <BR>this note should be posted in dub-production section<IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <BR>gotta check UA site <BR> <BR>/Mike Zee aka Dr ZEE

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Post by HM » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:00 pm

What upset&acute;s me about cards like PowerCore and <BR>UAD-1 is that they ties you to a specific piece <BR>of hardware, furthermore the "real" plugs you <BR>will soon need in addition is far to expensive, <BR>&#40;especially for powercore&#41;, but also all UAD-1 <BR>owner&acute;s seems to agree that the cheap "intro"- <BR>bunle does not reveal the force of the card, not <BR>really, you will need the big bundle, and soon <BR>one ot two cards more,.... <BR> <BR>Furthermore UAD&acute;s and Powercore does not run <BR>smooth and good in any hardware-configuration, <BR>powercore is the worst, one example is that it <BR>seem&acute;s NOT possible to run with the EMU cards. <BR> <BR>A lot has happend also in native plugs arena in <BR>the last 24 mounths, Kjaerhus audio, PSP,.. and <BR>Voxengo etc. is releasing killer plugs right <BR>now, by many considered on-par to powercore or <BR>UAD, and for reverb there is convolution also <BR> <BR>Gennerally this has lead me to the conclussion <BR>that building a pair of real monster-computers <BR>and use fx-teleport would be a better way to go <BR> <BR>These RE-201 impulses is already there I noticed <BR> <BR>For the same power i would realy prefer not to <BR>be tied to speccific hardware, and what happens <BR>to this hardware, &#40;soon the PCI-buss is ancient&#41;, <BR>also being dependant on speccific written plugs <BR>sucks, especially when they are so overpriced, <BR> <BR>Fx-Teleport is not perfect, and fx-max has been <BR>realy lazy to support and follow up, I don&acute;t <BR>have the highest expectations how it would run <BR>in realtime with VSTi&acute;s, but I know that with <BR>G-Lan at least it is possible to build a ass- <BR>kicking system for heavy effects during mix, to <BR>run a Lexicon impulse on the seccond PC etc etc <BR> <BR>So two killer PC&acute;s is my bet, and it does not <BR>need to be more expensive than these cards, and <BR>far more usability might be achieved I just did <BR>a PC based on a cheap Sempron 3100, but clocked <BR>it <A HREF="mailto:1800@2460">1800@2460</A> on a DFI NF3 with G-lan on board, <BR>a perfect "teleporter" for 200$ &#43; ram ,. &#40;the <BR>power of this beast smokes out even a A64 3500&#41; <BR> <BR>For the main PC I have a 2 x 4 Ghz Nocona-Xeon <BR>in the pibeline, based on a PC-DL with mod-bios, <BR> <BR>As for the plugs I have had luck with some great <BR>group-buy&acute;s generally at half price, for decent <BR>EQ&acute;s and compressors to replace the cubase-ones <BR>I got the hole gold-series from kjaerhus: <BR> <BR><A HREF="http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/gold-series.php" TARGET="_top">http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/gold-series.php</A> <BR> <BR>Furthermore Vintage Warmer and Nitro from PSP <BR> <BR>For reverbs I will go Convolution with Voxengo <BR> <BR>These are the cornerstones for now, and by many <BR>considered better than powercore / UAD plugs <BR> <BR>Just some thought&acute;s ;-&#41; <BR> <BR>HM

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Post by Mike Zee » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:03 pm

HM, I was just going through UA "systems" infos...and sort of got similar feeling about the whole thing. Without going through details, I'd simply say this: even if I need badly somthing like what these systems offer, I would not pay $400/$800 for trying out and see how it is especially for something, which seems to be 'self-contained'. It may be pretty good or may be just another so-so dsp option.... and then what? <BR>Soft plugs are booming... there'll be more available. Today's computer's power - tommorow's joke. $880 buck for dsp card? tomorrow it will be a piece of junk. llots of problems and questions here. <BR>In general, in today's world, it is a good idea to keep software and hardware as independent of each other as possible, or soon you'll end up with a jumbo box of useless cards, boxes, drives, intwerfaces etc, which you can not use, nobody wants and nobody care .... big box of sh&#42;t, which cost as new BMW, but worth no sh&#42;T <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <BR> <BR>arghhhhhhhhhhhhh, I've already have collected some stuff. One day I just gotta say" It's Time!" - and put it out into the 'green container' for sanitation truck to pick it up. <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <BR> <BR>/mike zee aka Dr ZEE

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Post by HM » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:52 pm

That&acute;s exactly the essense yes, if I build with a <BR>PC-based teleported solution I can maintain it as <BR>long as possible, and in the end I can transfer <BR>and recreate the hole setup on new faster PC&acute;s, <BR>or simply just reconfigure, etc. all open-ended <BR> <BR>Also I try to avoid Challenge Responsed Software <BR> <BR>Only I falled into temptation and bought Sample- <BR>Tank 2L due to an extremely good offer,.... ;-&#41; <BR> <BR>But other instruments,z3ta, Pentagon, Vsampler, <BR>Halion 2.2 and all the effects mentioned is also <BR>non-CR, Emulator-X need&acute;s a emu card installed <BR>but not nessesaryly used as main-card lucky so <BR> <BR>This brings a situation where it&acute;s down to PC&acute;s, <BR>mother-keyboard and midi-controllers, &#40;I regret my UC33e, to be replaced with the new Behringer maybe&#41;, and then Microphone&acute;s and preamps and REAL instruments not to forget,... <BR> <BR>But these are things with long-term value <BR> <BR>btw. I think that the PC-power that I got is <BR>about to be enough for a long long time, so now <BR>the system should be self-maintained and keept <BR> <BR>HM <BR> <BR>btw. did that powweb thing &#40;just for FTP so far&#41; <BR> <BR><A HREF="http://www.mistermahler.com" TARGET="_top">http://www.mistermahler.com</A>

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Post by Mike Zee » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:53 am

HM, nice site <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <BR>way to go! <BR>so when is Grand Opening? Am I invited? <BR> <BR>/mz aka Dr ZEE

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Post by HM » Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:16 am

LOL,.. no great opening planned, just I signed <BR>with the special 7.77$ each mounth offer and got <BR>14 mount free, total 38 mounth, mainly to set up <BR>a 2 GB FTP right now, and register the domain, <BR>seemingly it works nice, did some test-transfer, <BR>so far so nice, hopefully I will get use for the rest also, but first it&acute;s pc-build and two <BR>mixes,...

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Post by Neil C » Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:18 pm

The Powweb hosting looks really interesting, I haven't looked into setting up a site before, but it's got me thinking now. <BR>HM - did you 'shop around' before you chose Powweb? Are they to be recommended in comparison to other web hosters? <BR>How easy is it to construct a decent looking site? <BR> <BR>You are both probably right about the UAD card, not worth making a finacial effort for.

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Post by HM » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:46 pm

Hi Niel C <BR> <BR>It&acute;s to soon to say if all is OK, my other domain <BR><A HREF="http://www.dubtemple.com" TARGET="_top">http://www.dubtemple.com</A> hosted www.surftown.dk <BR>who uses an extremely easy online site-builder in <BR>no time I got started, and the templates seem&acute;s <BR>nicer than the powweb ones, I have not yet tried <BR>the "web-builder" at powweb though, but yes, I looked a little around and found this offer VERY <BR>attractive, for the 2 Gb space and very high <BR>traffic included, these two things is worth it <BR>all alone, and what I needed pt, even more the <BR>domain is included, certain trade option, and <BR>option to set up a forum etc etc, but most off <BR>all there is a very friendly forum, and powweb <BR>staff do a great job here, see my initial post: <BR><A HREF="http://forum.powweb.com/showthread.php?t=44120" TARGET="_top">http://forum.powweb.com/showthread.php?t=44120</A> <BR> <BR>Are you into making a artist site ? <BR> <BR>HM

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Post by Neil C » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:43 pm

Thanks for the info. <BR>Yes, I'm thinking of setting up a site for my music. It creates a good impression if you can say to people that they can go to your own site. I also want to be able to sell tracks, although I don't anticipate many sales.

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