Bob, since you have computer sequencer you can llok for a rack-version of digital synthesizer (which means that you don't spend money for a keyboard and often built-in sequencer), well, the thing is, however, that without a key-board controller it is sort of 'handless' and hard to do anything, unless you already have some good exprerience with computer-sequence. So in general, you can get yourself some simple midi-controller and a rack-synthesiser, you'll connect midi-out from controller to computer, and midi-out of the computer to midi-in of the rack synth and here'Ya go. Well, man, you'll need to go through the learning curve anyway. But the whole idea is: at the end you''l be able to get out of the synthesizer something really useful for your production. If you don't dig-into, then really it is hard to find any good machine - it is one way or the other - you can spend thousands and thousands of bucks, get yourself the whole bunch of sythesizers and learn to play keyboards (just like any instrument, btw, it's absolutely not the same as playing piano or church organ - technique is different) - OR, you can get yourself one synthesizer with good base-foundation and dig into it and then you can get pretty much anything you need out of it with combination of patch editing, midi-control and external (mixer/eq, compressor etc) processing. <BR> I can give you one example. Here's the url to go to check out: <BR><A HREF="
http://www.roland.dk/Sample_shop/pages/ ... V80-04.htm" TARGET="_blank">Patchlist SR-JV80-04</A>, it is an expansion sound-board (ROM) for a Roland JV-series synthesizers. There's mp3-link there to download, do it, listen as example, it's a sounds of older synth, you can hear vary subbin' synth and other stuff. But again, to get something usefull you'll need to go through learning how to get the sounds you are looking for. For more go here: <BR><A HREF="
http://www.rolandus.com/products/subcat ... ubCatID=54" TARGET="_blank">RolandJVexpansion</A>, check out dance, techno, maybe some other, they have mp3-sound to check out. <BR>You can get used JV1080 for under $500, then add boards (up to four extra-boards). <BR> <BR>Also man, there is a ton of other synth with very good sounding basses, but again, you can just keep buying em' untill you get sick of it <IMG SRC="
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http://www.vintagesynth.org/novation/nvbs.shtml" TARGET="_blank">NOVATION BassStation Rack</A> and have it your way <IMG SRC="
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http://www.waldorf-music.com/pulse" TARGET="_blank">PhatWaldorf</A> and get yourself into creating phat sounds <BR>or <BR><A HREF="
http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/index.htm" TARGET="_blank">NordModular</A> and get really into it's computerized lab - pretty much endless possability, but REALLY hard to learn to get something DESIRED but not random "cool" sh*t <BR>or <BR>You can get yourself are REAL analog synthesizer (it's gotta be used, and well not as cheap as you may expect) - but the, what are you going to do with it - you can simply sequence it - you can play it (which is really hard) - or sample it. <BR> <BR>well, man, if you get specific question about some specific synth - ask away, if I don't know , maybe other guys around here have it or know something about it. <BR> <BR>The problem is, man, that subbass/deep bass sound is a very tricky creature - it's hard to control, it is REALLY hard to place 'right' into the mix. The sound may be very cool alone, but when you get to the point of actually using it for composition - you just never know what it is going to do - most of the time it just KILLS everything or simply does not fit-in. It's a trip, man. You just need to work-out each individual mix on your mixing board and toys around - and there any bass/synth can play the RIGHT role of sub-bassin' texture. <BR> <BR>/mz