Dub bootlegs?

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tcm
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Dub bootlegs?

Post by tcm » Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:09 pm

Yesterday I picked up a copy of "Kaya Dub" by the Aggrovators at my local used record shop. Their name is not printed on the front, and on the back it's misspelled &#40;"The Agrovators"&#41;! A little basic deduction made me surmise this is probably a boot. <BR> <BR>Is there a big market for bootleg dub? What do you think about someone repressing an old record that's out of print or otherwise impossible to obtain?

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Dub bootlegs?

Post by interruptor » Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:05 pm

Since many records pressed in Jamaica have missleading credits and typing errors, this does not mean that you actually bought a bootleg. <BR> <BR>I have never heard of real dub bootlegs so far, but some labels do release dub tracks under different names &#40;without proper licensing&#41;. This is as bad or even worse than a bootleg.. check <A HREF="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... html">this discussion</A> <BR> <BR>On the Studio One DVD from Soul Jazz Records I heard Silvan Morris &#40;Engineer at Coxsone Dodd's Studio One&#41; say that they sometimes sold one and the same track under different names to different sound systems. <BR>As you see, confusion about credits has a long tradition in Jamaica. <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... happy4.gif">

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Dub bootlegs?

Post by Dub Soljah » Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:06 pm

This dub is coming from Bunny Lee productions and its the B-side probably of Ronnie Davis cover on the Bob tune "Kaya". It has got the same title... <BR>I have it pon 7"... <BR>Inelse you have a dubmix on the "Blackboard Jungle dub" from the same "kaya"... It is a Lee Perry & King Tubbys production. <BR> <BR>Bootleg is a concept that quite never existed in Jamaica til' the major influence of Hip-Hop & Ragga remixes. But in Jamaica, til the mid-eighties, it was possible to buy "dubs" from the studios that were just different mixes or versions of a track. Sometimes, the artists were licking a vocal on 2 different riddims, or 2 different arrangements sets on one riddim and finally one was left aside for any reason like being too "rough" or too much charged.... or the opposite as well. Some dubs were cut on straight Drum & Bass mixes with echos on the vocal even. <BR> <BR>Example : Dennis Brown "Children of Israel" on the Wreck UP riddim. It came out on a 7" version for Ossie Music and on a 12" &#40;that I don't have !&#41; on probably DEB Music. The 12" has got terrible mixes way deeper than the 7". <BR> <BR>In that period, the engineers were sometimes cutting dozens of dubs from the same tracks, even sometimes straight to the cutting machine. One mistake and the laqueer was lost. Dubwise time ! <BR> <BR>Jah love Itinually

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