Dub Recording/EQing (pre FX)
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:35 pm
I've read all sorts of stuff on how the dub greats are doing there effects wizardry but I need some info on how to get the sound right in the first place before applying the effects.
I play guitar in a dub band, we are bass, guitar and drums.
Lee Perry and King Tubby were also recording engineers, a thing that many dub producers nowadays are probably not, because they work either with synths and drum machines or with samples, but Lee Perry and King Tubby made their samples themselves, and we are kind of in the same situation, so this is one step before the usual dub production.
Our current setup is that we have a mic on the snare, bassdrum and hi hat, bass goes through a preamp into the pa, but guitar is through a separate amp (because I do my effects myself, and also the drum fx).
I know some basic EQing principles for drums and bass, but I don't know if these also apply to dub/reggea, and I would love to find some sources of on the EQing and production techniques used by these 2.
If its not possible to understand what I mean, listen to this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWcmIRSFaHQ
how do we get from the sound prior to 2:35 to the sound after that? (I think they just changed the audio track from the live recording in the studio to the produced final track.
What I do now is, I boost the Kickdrum around 120 Hz and cut off around 500 Hz, I boost the bass around 60 Hz and cut off at 150 Hz, boost the snare at 300 Hz and the for the hi hat I cut off everything below 14 kHz.
I still cant get the sound right. Specially on the hi hat...
maybe I also need a compressor for the bass and kickdrum? Do you put a compressor after or before the preamp? (silly question, but I never used one)
Hope someone can help us to improve our sound,
cheers, Franz
I play guitar in a dub band, we are bass, guitar and drums.
Lee Perry and King Tubby were also recording engineers, a thing that many dub producers nowadays are probably not, because they work either with synths and drum machines or with samples, but Lee Perry and King Tubby made their samples themselves, and we are kind of in the same situation, so this is one step before the usual dub production.
Our current setup is that we have a mic on the snare, bassdrum and hi hat, bass goes through a preamp into the pa, but guitar is through a separate amp (because I do my effects myself, and also the drum fx).
I know some basic EQing principles for drums and bass, but I don't know if these also apply to dub/reggea, and I would love to find some sources of on the EQing and production techniques used by these 2.
If its not possible to understand what I mean, listen to this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWcmIRSFaHQ
how do we get from the sound prior to 2:35 to the sound after that? (I think they just changed the audio track from the live recording in the studio to the produced final track.
What I do now is, I boost the Kickdrum around 120 Hz and cut off around 500 Hz, I boost the bass around 60 Hz and cut off at 150 Hz, boost the snare at 300 Hz and the for the hi hat I cut off everything below 14 kHz.
I still cant get the sound right. Specially on the hi hat...
maybe I also need a compressor for the bass and kickdrum? Do you put a compressor after or before the preamp? (silly question, but I never used one)
Hope someone can help us to improve our sound,
cheers, Franz