heh heh, guys, <BR>very interesting conversation is going on here... <BR>makes me think for sure... <BR>I can like blah blah about this kinda'stuff forever... not really trying to make any point. <BR> <BR>If I'd try to be like 100% serious about it...it'll give me a head-pain-through-the-night <IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR>Really, this is a very complicated subject. <BR> <BR>All these my sort of crippled analogies with picturing a "performer" is just a some sort of way to try to make some sense... <BR> <BR>Le'me just make couple of notes...two extra cents to shake in the fist ..heh heh <BR> <BR>About "having two ears" ..lol <BR>Well, this is not really about "stereo" at all. But more about physiology of hearing. Plus if you add to the picture the physics of acoustics ... man, it will really get tough, but WAIT!!!! <BR>this is not all. Let's add to this: Psychology of a Dubhead and all para-scientific and alchemical LABYRINTHIC ways of thinking and viewing the universe in general, which many dub-producers or dub-listeners are guilty of ..heh heh ..then - you are totally out of luck and aren't going anywhere, if you wish to come out with some sort of conclusion. <BR>Here's ...I've made a quick pic out of some gif from some 'med'-site: <BR><IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... 96/357.jpg" ALT="HEAR_THE_DUB"> <BR> <BR>heh heh. <BR>Well, <BR>you see, technically speaking, if you have one single speaker in the room - you still hear is as a 'surround sound'... do I make sense? <BR>Now, how do you know? <BR>Well, you don't.... cos, you don't think about it...you just hear what you hear. <BR>Then why TWO ears? ... from computing point of view to explain: - it's because you need two 'parameters' - to values...and then you are all set. Add TIME to the mix. <BR>Two parameters, of different value (say haracterististics) are being recived at the same time. Right? - Right. <BR>But! The whole beauty of it is that these two parameters are not the same, even if they came from one single point in X-Y-Z, the same signal reaches your ears at not the same time, plus!!!! your ears are not the same as "receiving devices", and then these two signals (from one source) is being processed inside of your brain, applying only got knows what internal built in effects ...<IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":)">, but one thing for sure, - The Brain does apply "previous experience"..... and the result is - you know where in 3-d space the source is - infront, behind, under etc..... <BR>But in reality there's no such thing as pure-single source of a signal, traveling through complete silence.... so the picture is really very complex at the end. <BR>********** <BR>Now, why even waste time to talk about it? <BR>would be a good question. <BR>But I am trying to built some sort of a base for a thinking about what does 'surround sound' really is and means. <BR>OK, ... <BR>One thing for sure - in reality it has nothing to do with Dolby ..heh heh , nothing to do with 5 or 6 speakers, absolutely has nothing to with so-called surround-sound-pro-logic-digital-homeentertainment-systems. It has nothing to do with Sony ... that's for sure <IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR>******** <BR>And one more thing, which came to my mind, while I was thinking'bout this. <BR>You see, what we as dud-producers are doing... we are not really making something what the listener will be hearing, but we are creating only the 'base' of the source for a reproduction. <BR>If you keep this in mind, then it may help some sort of to focus on what's really important. <BR>You need to create that "source base" - the record, which has its "nerve" - it has to be "tight" and to the point. I am sure most guys, know what I mean. <BR>Then the USER/Listener will use this "source" (the record) to turn his/her reproduction system on/alive. And there is no way you can predict or know what it is going to be like, what room, what space, what kind of walls around, or any walls at all, what speaker(s), how much power, how much beer/or weed, how much internal stress, or how much internal emptiness .... etc etc <BR>*********** <BR>ohhh, well <BR> <BR>hope I did not push it too hard. <BR> <BR>And, yes, Daniel...<IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":)">, since we've got DVDs finally out (finally major electronics-makers decided to let it go, just the way they always did in the past), so since DVDs are out - then what? Then you must put something on it. Right? <BR>DVDs can cary allot. So stuff it ..stuff it stuff it !!! <IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR>MP3-players are a real boom on the market thou... and how do they sound? shitty!, but it does not change a thing. Electronics market and recording/music/movie/multimedia entertainment is a very strange thing. Really hard to guess where will we be in ten or so years. <BR>All I know, we still gonna have two ears and one brain..<IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR> <BR>guys, take with a doze of humour and flexability everything I am blahin' here.... lol, <BR>(pls ignore buncha'misspellings... <IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... rt/sad.gif" ALT=":(">) <BR> <BR>nice talking to you as always, <BR>/respects <BR>/Mike Zee/aka DrZEE