Daniel, heh, good talking, man <IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR> <BR>well, man, when I've said "you can't get it", I mean from 'practical' point, not to say that it technically impossible. <BR>My point is, simply, if you have that 'ugly tube amp with dusty metal spring inside' it gives you that very special sound right through - bang - out- got it. To get it digitally, and I mean that very sound you need: <BR>1. pretty good dsp power/processor/program <BR>2. therefore you may need cash - <IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":)"> (cheap effect will not do it well) <BR>3. you need actually experience and knowledge working with dsp (know how to use software to get what YOU HAVE IN MIND, and not just randomly using dsp for what ever may come out of it, or to learn how to program your hardware dsp-unit (plus usually you need some extra external tratment to your dsp to get the desired effect) <BR>4. bottom line - you must be a some sort of nerd-producer -- heh heh, well, you know what I mean. <BR> <BR>And also I have to add to the "mix", that it may very well depend on your personality. I mean, some musicians-producers are more connected to big boxess, real instruments, amps and mics, and they do not feel 'home' working with 'on-screen parameters'.... <BR>So, another words: two radical sides here: <BR>one guy will seat with computer software/or programming his hardware dsp-units to get some "cool desired effect", calculating every step and sound, <BR>the other guy will get similar result simply by kiking spring-tank with foot <IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR>- both are happy at the end, heh heh heh <BR> <BR>I remember had funny conversation with one of my local musician/producer friend. He gave me some sketchy break-beat-type of track, just to have my opinion. Well, the track was pretty cool, but the most I liked about it was that cuttin' trough snare. So I've asked him,: "How did you program/sampled or what ever that snare?" <BR>And he laughed and said: "It's not snare, nor I programed anything, it was just accident - I was hiting/testing mic off some box I had there near, while was mixing down the track.. and the sound happend to be pretty cool, like snare for this specific mix, so I've used it... " <BR> <BR>I think, in general, for dub, it depends on how do you as producer like to work... Sort of speaking: Are you a more like mechanic, or furnituer builder, or are you more like mathematician or bank-manager ? <IMG SRC="
http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":)"> - what's your personality? <BR> <BR>respects, <BR>/Mike Zee