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Post by Mike Zee » Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:52 pm

Hi All. <BR>This is new and best yet way to make full audio-CDs available on line from cafeshops.com <BR>I'll be working on making more albums available over the time. <BR>&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42; <BR><A HREF="http://www.cafeshops.com/wickedroots.6138984" TARGET="_blank">MIDDLE OF NOWHERE &#91;Wicked Roots&#93;</A> extended version release now available. <BR>It is full audio-quality red-book audio-CD &#40;no mp3-encoding involved&#41;, which means that it is being duplicated from original audio-CD master&#41;. <BR>Also has complete color graphics, including on-disc color-print design. <BR>Here's a small view: <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... 10/506.jpg" ALT="wicked roots cd"> <BR>For more graphics views: <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/music2/mikezee ... droots.htm" TARGET="_blank">Go Here &#40;cd graphics&#41;</A> <BR>This version is extended and has two extra tracks: "INSIDE-OUT BACKWARD DUB" and "TO WHERE WE ARE FROM". It's 13 tracks, 73:28 total play time. <BR>For 1 min hi-fi streaming audio-preview of all the tracks: <A HREF="http://www.cafeshops.com/wickedroots.6138984" TARGET="_blank">Go HERE - audio-preview</A> <BR>To order CD on-line: <A HREF="http://www.cafeshops.com/wickedroots.6138984" TARGET="_blank">Go Here - buy CD</A> <BR>&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42; <BR> <BR>"MUSIC BOX DUBs" album coming soon, I'll make another update post asap. <BR>&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42; <BR> <BR>/best regards, ' n respects <BR>/Mike Zee &#40;aka Dr. ZEE&#41; <BR><A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/music2/mikezee/dub_lab.htm" TARGET="_blank">ZEE DUB LAB</A>

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Post by interruptor » Fri Jun 06, 2003 12:53 pm

hi mike! <BR> <BR>this cafepress service seems to get better and better. what are the conditions like? do they actually pay you something for each cd sold? is there a monthly fee to be paid? <BR> <BR>big up <BR>daniel

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Post by Mike Zee » Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:48 pm

Daniel, <BR>you can set-up free &#40;or basic&#41; shop there or there's a pay &#40;premium&#41; subscribtion option. here's copy/paste about premium-shops: <BR>Premium Shop Features <BR> <BR>Create a seamless shopping experience that will increase sales and boost profits. <BR> <BR> Advanced customization - Your shop is a true extension of your Web site. <BR> Increase product choices by offering unlimited designs and products. <BR> Offer exclusive products available only to Premium Shops members <BR> Organize your designs and products into categories/subcategories. <BR> Great marketing features including mailing lists and premium promotion in our Shopping area. <BR> Change the sell price of all products in a shop with just one click. <BR> <BR>Premium Shops allow you to completely customize your shop. <BR>&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42; <BR>premium shop cost: <BR>you can try it free for 15 days, <BR>then subscribtion does as: <BR>$6.95 per month <BR>$18.45 for 3 months <BR>$34.95 for 6 months <BR>$59.95 for 1 year &#40;only $5 per month!&#41; <BR>&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42; <BR>This new CD feature is really looking good. Again the deal is that you send your original red-book master audio-CD and they just copy/duplicate it as is. So you release complete and fuul audio-CD. I think they are working also on letting user to upload mp3 files &#40;similar to the way it's done at mp3.com...but I really would not go for this. However it maybe usefull for many users, especially for spoken-word type of production, where audio-quality isn't so important&#41; <BR>&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42; <BR>Now, there's to option for audio CDs there: <BR>1. Audio-CD with on-disc lable-print in paper envelope. <BR>and <BR>2. audio-CD with on-disc color print and complete 4p color booklet and both sides color tray &#40;clear case&#41;. <BR>There's base price for each option. <BR>For envelop CD it is $4.99 <BR>For CD with Jewel Case and Inserts it is $8.99 <BR>so this is a minimum price you can sell your cd. If you wish to earn something from sales, then you sett the price above the minimum, what ever you set - is your earnings. &#40;same 'system' as with all other products there&#41; <BR>&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42; <BR>I've just ordered a CD from there, but have not received it yet. When I get it, I'll drop a note about how it is in terms of quality of prints etc... I am kind of exited about it, because these people who run cafepress.com look like really care about 'quality' of their product. They even have 30 days return policy there...and also they technically pretty much into 'printing technology buiseness'.... another words it's not like it is at mp3.com or ampcast.com etc.... where they use third party production factory and have no real control over the quality, so in case of 'inperfections' they just keep pointing fingers...not to mention that they don't care much. <BR>So I hope that this cafepress.com CD option may become really the way to go, if you wish to make your album available on-line without pre-ordering 1000 of CDs. <BR> <BR>well, I still have to see the product myself to make a conclusion.... <BR>will post again then.... <BR> <BR>/respects, <BR>/Mike Zee aka DRZEE

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Post by Mike Zee » Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:58 pm

Daniel, just in case you care about the actual result. So far I've ordered and just received one CD from cafepress.com. <BR>So, I'd say it IS the best quality you can get from my experience of using vary omd sites services. Packaging was greate, actually sort of doubled - it was a pretty hard card-board box for the CD inside of bobbled-envelope. So no cracs no breaks. You see cafepress has 30 day return policy...so they sort of care about shipping packaging. <BR>The CD was plastic shrink-wrap. The sound...well, just as original master copy , it's bassically direct copy-disc. Looks like they are using silver coated sansui CD-Rs, looks fine. On-Disc color print is glossy, pretty heavy-duty...looks good. <BR>The rest of prints are nice as well, glossy paper. I really am not sure, but it looks like some sort of color-lazer printing...but there's some ink newer technology which is very close....I dont know. All I can say, that colors are great, black b/g is really full &#40;it IS important, you know <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;">&#41;. <BR>The only my little complain is that it looks like the resolution they do their CD-Print is no higher than 300dpi. Well, if you are into graphics perfectionizm, then you may notice...most people will not see much of a problems their. However, I'd say for FULL 'satisfaction' I think the printing resolution shold be at least 600dpi. <BR>if you or anybody have any specific questions, pls, e-mail me or post here, I'll check back asap <BR> <BR>/regards, <BR>/Mike Zee, aka DR ZEE

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Post by interruptor » Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:40 am

thanks a lot for the info mike! now i wish you good sales.. <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif">

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Post by Mike Zee » Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:30 pm

good sales ..heh heh <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> thanks, man. <BR> <BR>not much sales goin' on at all. Not to mention that to sell anything without mad advertizing is nearly impossible, but in addition nowdays people simply DO NOT buy music in general. It looks like the mentality goes this way: get computer, get internet hi-speed and you've got it all. grrrrrrrrr. <BR> <BR>But so what. ? <BR>The most important, as I can tell, from point of vew of independent musician/producer, is to make your work available worlwide in the best possible quality with the least 'investment'. This is why I'm doing it ...for what it worth. <BR>I'll be moving CDs as I get time to deal with it all into one store/place here: <A HREF="http://www.cafeshops.com/mze" TARGET="_blank">MZE-Electroarts Entertainment Store</A>. <BR>All mp3/on-line music sites/services are going to hell, as I can see. I've got out of ampcast.com - it was a waste. mp3.com? - -man, this site got good traffic, good technical power &#40;I mean their servers work like a war-machines ...heh heh, but as I can see, mp3.com is now a simple extra cash pump for VivendiUniversal based on VU-acts promos and hi-pro advertisment &#40;like honda and sh&#42;t like that&#41;, mp3.com itself is now promoting emusic.com like crazy. So $150 a year to be there and have inferior mp3-based CDs available - this just sucks, period. It is still good for having your mp3s out. The only question is: why would you work your ass out to make your music available for free while listeners absolutely DO NOT appreciate it. And I mean it. People just expect it to be FREE nowdays. In the past you could at least get 'thank you' e-mails from time to time. Now? - nop, nada-zippo. <BR>Now, you as independent producer, will do all the work, will spend your cash for equipment, you will pay for internet connection and you also will pay for some "service" which will let you to make your work available for FREE. hah hah hah .... that's what reality is today like. <BR>So I just said to myself, "F&#42;k it, man...hell with the worl". I am just going to make some of my works available on CDs. If one person in the world can really appreciate it - then buy it. If not - then - fine with me, I don't really give a crap. <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <BR> <BR>/later, <BR>/respects, <BR>/M Z, aka DrZEE

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Post by interruptor » Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:16 am

yes mike.. that's it. for guys like us it's simple: as long as you don't have a hit your music &#40;even live performances&#41; has no commercial value at all. <BR>i also ask myself where the music industry will go in the future. the big companies are now trying to come up with file formats which expire after one play if you don't pay for the music &#40;check this article about <A HREF="http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtm ... estructing files</A>&#41;.. i have doubts whether this will ever work; every copy protection can be cracked. on the other hand if it really worked and EVERYBODY would pay a share the price could be very low. <BR>maybe we are heading towards a situation where information &#40;music, software,..&#41; cannot be sold anymore because it is freely available to everyone. since we were not on the winning side of the old system anyway do we have to be sad about this? the majors tell us that quality and diversity of the available music would diminish. but isn't this a propaganda lie? <BR>The lack of commercial crap productions could mean that there would be more attention to underground stuff like ours!

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Post by Mike Zee » Thu Jun 19, 2003 5:28 am

Interesting stuff, Daniel. Yeah, it's true...any 'program' can be cracked in general. However... and I am not a spec in the area..but if the general idea is not really to protect the data, but rather be permanently damaged if ANYTHING done to its content, then it may work. Another words....as soon as you "touch" it - it's gone, including the very creator. The only simple question for me is this: is it true - anything what can be played - can be recorded? <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> one time - is enough ...you know..heh heh. Well, I don't know about movies, like dvd - itsa'complex thing..., but the sound - what you play - you simply record &#40;It takes three simple connections for stereo..heh heh, need no program nor cracker-head. <BR> <BR>well, whatever, again, Daniel, To me its kind of all non-issue. Personally I don't see how a one single independent producer can particapate all this shit. However, I really feel, and actually see by results, that we all are in the same boat, really...majors and us-little fish. Consummer/listener/fan - what ever you call it - they don't care who you are and what's behind the entertainment product - as it is now, I'd say f&#42;k consummer....they've got it all wrong. If you don't pay something - it will be the end of entertainment. At the end all you&#40;all of us&#41; will only see commercials on tv and commercials on the air plus a bunch of public broadcasts with filtered propaganda .... something like that ..heh heh ... <BR>I maybe wrong... I don't really know. All I know for sure, is, that I miss those days, when people used to think that it is very cool thing to do - to BUY/COLLECT LPs of your fav. band/artist, having a nice REAL Hi-Fi stero-system at home used to be cool also... NOW? grrrrrrrrrr ...<IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... rt/sad.gif" ALT=":&#40;"> those times are gone gone gone <BR> <BR>/later, <BR>/respects <BR> <BR>/M ZEE aka Dr ZEE

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Post by interruptor » Thu Jun 19, 2003 9:30 am

even if the data is really destroyed after the first listen: this must be done by a special player-software. so all you need is a cracked version of the player which will not destroy the data.. or a conversion tool which brings the music into an unprotected format before playing it for the first time. <BR>the only way i can imagine to prevent this would be to force users to have sort of an "official spyware" installed on the pc &#40;as part of the operating system&#41; which monitors what the user is doing and interacts if anything illegal is happening. microsoft is trying to do stuff like this since years and the whole world hates them for it.. <BR> <BR>apart from such orwellian scenarios a possible business model in the new era would be: music is sold dirt cheap but with ads on the cover, on the cd-layout, between the songs.

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Post by Mike Zee » Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:59 pm

Right. Or better yet, something like: New music will not be available as is 'stand-alone'. For example: The only way to get a new BackStreetBoys song is to buy a box of Kellogg's cereal and read a special URL and password on a card which you get from inside the box, so you go to the address enter password and download mp3 ...heh heh heh <BR>In case of LeePerry - the password will be placed on the inner side of the twist-top cap of Guinness Beer bottle <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <BR> <BR>/M ZEE, aka DrZEE

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