Kunta Kinte Live Dub band

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Kunta Kinte Live Dub band

Post by stranded horse » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:19 pm

http://soundcloud.com/beatwise-and-dubhead/kunta-kinte

The drums aren't properly miced, because we only use 2 mics on it, and it doesn't pick up what the drummer's doing on the rototoms very niceley, and there are some small mistakes playing the tune, but then again we rarely do 2nd takes, and this is not the definite recording, just a short demo take to see if this tune works.

What do you think? Good tune? Good arrangement? Mixing ok?
I really think an overhead mic for the drums would be a massive improvement.

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Post by Neil C » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:38 pm

I'd add some speech samples in there (Boss SP samplers are convenient). It would give it a subject and something to hook on to.
If you're not going to be selling in large quantities I don't think copyright holders will be coming after you.
I think it's a good bed but it needs something lying on top.

The drummer sounds like the drummer in my old band, he/she can do good patterns but fluffs up the timing here and there, and if a drummer can't keep time there's something to think about there (I think it's better to play something simple in time than something ambitious out).
It's the factor that stops it sounding really slick.

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Post by stranded horse » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:38 pm

Well it's usually me who messes up the timing. There are some playing mistakes in there by our drummer, but actually he almost never does any mistakes.
This isn't anything intended to be released. I just pushed the record button during band practice to have some material to practice dub mixing. We already wanted to move to the next tune when I said 'just once more please I want to record it' and then we just played through the mistakes because we couldn't be bothered to start again.

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Post by Neil C » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:28 pm

Well, I think it's good then as far as it goes.
The sound all hangs together nicely, except as you identified the drums stick out as not as good as the rest of the mix. They're the toughest thing!

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Post by tradesman » Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:12 pm

Nice Version Respect. I agree drummer is a touch out but apart from tht i think it sound irie! 8-)

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Post by stranded horse » Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:04 pm

Well I am trying to save some money to by an Oktava MK012 as an overhead for the drums, which should improve the sound quality greatly. But at the same time we still need one more power amp for our soundsystem, and our organ needs repairing, so it will all take time...

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Post by JahNice » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:27 pm

Goooood ting Franz, Respects from I also. i am convinced Neil C's idea of
adding some samples in there would surely support the tune! Or maybe
just some vocal shouts with lots of FXion.

I like the drummers tom-action especially in the intro.. even as it is mixed
kind of -in the background, if it were more upfront one would identify the
mistakes more easely. ---Our way of working has been to just play out
live and then try to identify the mistakes on our spontanious recordings
and afterwards fix or just remove them blue notes if possible.

about overheads:
My Cousins have built a little booth originaly for recording vocals, but we
have our drummer locked up in there nowadays, so that we can get
signals from each and every part of the set, plus nice clean overhead
recordings.. We also have a guitar amp in that booth and uptill now it
never was a big problem with the guitar on the overhead signal. But on
the other hand we have not done any dubmixin lately, so it could become
a problem if we wanted to mute the guitar completely...... But it can be
also a very nice and pleasant effect still hearing a little of the muted
instruments!

2nd takes was a hard thing to do for us too. but now, as we rehearse for
gigs sometimes we play only one or two tunes over and over again for
the whole rehearsal.. Its a hard thing to do, if you just want to have fun
and play, but it pays of in the end, if you want to do serious recordings for
public release.. its best to do both kind of sessions. sometimes just let go
and play music freely and sometimes juss rehearse to get the tunes right
and memorize them

check dis nice cheap tubepoweramp
or maybe this one

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