DUB DISCUSSION BOARD

congo dahabu · Joined: 28 May 2001 Posts: 1

childran, i dont seem to find notes about the good old phaser on the message board! what about the mutron L$p (Lee Scratch Perry) used?

interruptor · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 1138 Location: Switzerland

I repost a message by Swinging Chad from the old board where the phaser is beinging termed "an early demo model":
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According to "People Funny Boy" Scratch used
these in the early days of Black Ark (1973-75):

- Alice mixer (Scratch: "They weren't professional machines they were only toys")
- Grantham spring reverb
- Roland Space Echo RE201
- Marantz amplifier for instruments
- AKG drum mic for vocals
- Teac 3340 1/4 inch 4-track recorder
- Teac 2-track recorder for mix down

In 1975 he added some new equipment:
- Soundcraft mixer (replaced the Alice)
- Mutron phaser (an early demo model)
- better mics

- Around 1979 he was given a Teac 1/2 inch 8-track recorder but he didn't like it and almost never used it.

If you want to see Scratch working this stuff at Black Ark get the video "Roots Rock Reggae" from
Shanachie. And the book "People Funny Boy" by David Katz is a must also. In the course of telling Lee Scratch Perry's life story he tells the whole story of Jamaican music. The best book ever on reggae.

In discussing Tubby Katz says that his equipment was mostly handmade and can't really be duplicated.
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johnp352 · Joined: 30 May 2001 Posts: 15

That looks like a Mutron Bi-Phase to the left of the board in the movie. the evil vintage pimps who hoard and broker efx have made these very expensive lately. What is a good alternative?

I love this segment of the movie..the look on Scratch's face when the section gets it right on the second take is worth the price of admission.

Does anyone here know..is that Boris Gardiner playing bass in the Black Ark session?

Nematod · Joined: 23 Mar 2001 Posts: 39

The Big briar 12 stage phaser is quite good , ive used one a couple of times. as far as i know it also does the 2 phaser thing like the mutrons but im not sure.

Swinging Chad · Joined: 07 Jun 2001 Posts: 1

Yes, that's Boris on bass!

johnp352 · Joined: 30 May 2001 Posts: 15

thanks Chad..I just received the LSP book..and there it was too.
And as "Mr Music" was never released..I am starting to use Boris' wicked line as the base (NPI) of a new dub I am working on. After watching that sequence too many times, i could NOT get it out of my head..so i recorded my own version.

Looter · Joined: 13 Mar 2001 Posts: 111 Location: US

Check out the one-of-a-kind prototype of a RACKMOUNT Musitronics Bi-Phase. If only I had the 2k to burn..

http://www.mu-tron.org/list.html#proto

Kevin

Mike Zee · Joined: 20 Mar 2001 Posts: 766 Location: NY, USA

geeeeeeeeeeeeee, man, Kevin,

'quote'
item #002 : "Phase Synthesizer" Bucket brigade Flanger prototype 1973
price : $20,000... now : $14,999!
description : Only one prototype , never manufactured, used by Larry Coryell. This was the first bucket brigade flanger ever made. It has controls and pedal controls for all parameters

'/quote'

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr, heh heh heh
justa 15 granZZZZZZZZZ.... who in hell would buy this. maybe some national museum or something ... lol

for this cash I can have all the pedals in the world ... sorta'speak. and why would you want all of them

but even these rack units for 2k, .. I don't know. If I had 2k to spend I'd get something different these days. oh well....

later,

respects,

/Mike Zee

aleph · Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 72

I can tell you about the mogerfogger phaser
that the 2 output are not in real stereo
but produces a auto pan effect
It sounds quite hot and the cv's are really usefull
for dubwise

Neil C · Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 364 Location: Moonbase Alpha

I've just seen 'Roots, Rock, Reggae' (a must for any dub fan) and the phaser Scratch is using is clearly not one of the production models. It shares definite similarities with the production bi-phase - but 1) the body is a different shape 2) It is mostly white/cream (difficult to be sure which) whereas the production models were blue (or purple in one batch) 3) And it says Super Phasing on it and not Mutron Bi-phase.
However the rotary pots, the switches and the style of lettering and the style of lines seperating areas of the phaser - they are all very much like the production models.
In short in RRR the evidence that it was a pre-production model is clear to see.
Fascinating to see how Scratch 'played' it as the track was being recorded.

Melotones · Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 1

Check this out:

http://www.topictracker.org/

A nice story on the space echo and lee perry!

respect.

Neil C · Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 364 Location: Moonbase Alpha

I can find this substantial summary of Lee Perry:
http://www.topictracker.org/index.php?&action=topic&id=27&topic=Lee+%27Scratch%27+Perry.

on the very interesting site you lead us to

but not specifically about the space echo - and wouldn't you be better putting info about the space echo in the sub-section of this forum dedicated to the space echo OR info about Lee Perry in the sub-section dedicated to Lee Perry?

baldhead · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 2

Greetings,

Here's the story about the space echo:

http://www.topictracker.org/index.php?&action=topic&id=33&topic=The+Space+Echo

respect.

baldhead · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 2

Greetings,

Here's the story about the Mutron Bi-Phase.

http://www.topictracker.org/Mutron_Bi-Phase._84.html?keywords=wah_style_foot_ped al_phase_shifter_Mutron_Bi-Phase_effectunit_

Respect

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