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Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation)

 
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HM



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation) Reply with quote

Basically they comes in 3 versions: short/medium/long (Delay)

Could I resolder a "short-model" into a "long-model" etc etc ?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:57 pm    Post subject: Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation) Reply with quote

no answers,... can I get my money back :-)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:58 pm    Post subject: Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation) Reply with quote

i think the input and output impedance should match your pre and post-amplifiers. spring length should then not make a difference. i don't know much about analog electronics so i can't tell the details..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:25 pm    Post subject: Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation) Reply with quote

Hi,.... Accutronics Type 9 is the long 16" luxus-
tank, used in Vermona Retroverb and other serious
applications, there is 3 parallel springlines and
it is made in the 3 above mentioned variants, so
my assumption is that the diffrence might very well just be wirring soldered diffrent so that
more or less springs inserted, I have an ebay-
offer on the short-version, but dont whant to
be stucked at short-mode, hmmmmmmm
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:28 pm    Post subject: Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation) Reply with quote

I dont mind impedances I will buffer pre/post,
but I need to controll the reverb size (springs)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation) Reply with quote

ah, now i understand the question.. but i don't know the answer. how would you want to change the delay length by soldering? cutting part of the spring away and re-attach the rest? that should result in more tension, thus higher sound and shorter reverb.
does anyone produce a tunable reverb tank? i never heard of something like that altough it's an obvious idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:57 am    Post subject: Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation) Reply with quote

I just assume that as we deal with mass-production
all tre models are boiled up on same bone, just by
"parralelling and serialling" the 3 lines diffrent
makes the delay diffrent, so if I knew the trick I
could turn a given model into one of the two other

It�s a matrix, you could parralel the two first to
put the last in serial etc etc all would give a diffrent delay time, so the springs should not be
touched, only the internal wirring between them

I talk electrically, not mechanically, but I need
to know iff there is individual transducers on
each spring, if not I speak nonsens :-),....

btw. you could tweak a spring-system mechannical
also, string up the springs with harder tension
and watch delays tighting up also, and maybe its
what goes on in these type 9 series, don�t know,

btw I often wondered about "modulating" springs
with induction/magnetism or even with a little
speaker on the middle,... a vocoder,... ??????

But I have not time for these experiments grrrrr

Thanks for trying to understand my obscure mind
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject: Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation) Reply with quote

...btw. you could tweak a spring-system mechannical
also, string up the springs with harder tension

HUH! that's good thinking :-)
How about adding a trmolo bridge with bar .... and "play" it like guitar on-the-fly while dubbing ... heh heh

here:
tremolospring

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:53 am    Post subject: Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation) Reply with quote

HeHe,... Mike your not so wrong,... actually its
already done, its just with a piano,. translated
into a VSTe-algoritm, the name is "pianoverb" it
is both usefull and overlooked, you must imagine
a upright piano-frame used as a spring-tank (PSP)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:04 am    Post subject: Accutronics Type 9 spring (modifikation) Reply with quote

HM, I have here type 9 tank, btw... studio page here . Mine came from Mesa Boogie Nomad 45 Head. I could make some as close as my camera lets photo(s) of inside if you may need it...hmmmm? Electronically there's not much going on there ..hehe :-) Mechanically it's beautiful! what else? I don't know.... let me know.

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