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panda mi



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 7:09 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

don't play gietarz mon, just smoke grass & get high.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2002 6:00 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

since smokin sensi is alot like reverting back to childhood, you got to think backwards when playing dub, 'cause infact, dub always comes out better when you're high. wheni mean backwards i mean, the guitar and piano is actually the percussion, and the drums is the melody. the bass is the happy medium in between!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2002 6:29 pm    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

Hey, guys, with all DO RESPECTS , and I personally am sort of free-mind when it comes to the issue of smokin'. But would you, please, cut it out! Cut out all these absolute nonsensical and totally un-related smokin' and being hi factors.
When you 're hi - everything is 'better', regardlessly... even your ugly and fat cat, seating in the dusty corner of your 'production lab', may look like a slim and athletic LION :)... he he he.
Yeah, I know. It's non-O-ma-business.
Reality is: if you can't play - you can't play.
If you can't produce dubs - you just can't.
You can smoke your brains out of your skull... it will not do a thing.
and on the other hand, if you don't smowwwwwke :) at all, it does not make you less dubster... not even a micron less...

yearrrrrr, that's ma'thoughts.

be-well everybody,

:) :) :)

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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2002 4:07 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

Just on the topic of smoking.....King Tubby didn't smoke or even drink...need I say more? (If I do then you need to get to know reggae music a likkle bit better)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 1:01 pm    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

Well said from all the guys who tell them bb-sound boy that smokin' ain't the way of doing good dub music... i quit smokin' for a long time now and my music has never sounds so good... but back to the guitar skank topics :
I used sampler (reason Reddrum) mixed or alternated with the piano like a lot of all you said, then choose the right effects (do no need to do too much) and mix it the right way in the whole mix...
I play the bass and programm the drums sequences, but I'm little short with skank chord sample sounds(after 50 songs it begins to sounds a little bit the same all the time), please sends me some if you got some... for the creativity and for the goodness of the people thanks...

And stop talking shit about smokin' and music !

Big up to all you boys
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Red



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 4:27 pm    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

adding on what was said about smoking the herb.
Questionn: WHAT IS DUB MUSIC FOR YOU?
Some people smoke and get high and that's it, it is then simply a carnal pleasure. Some other people smoke and go to a higher level, they get to rediscover themselves, other perspectives appear. I believe that all those who have been criticizing it have simply never been further the first stage. This is only when it becomes interesting. Music is Art and Art means expressing your inner feelings. Now why some people just cannot go further the first stage and attain that spiritual maturite. i dunno. Maybe not everybody diserves this gift.


PS: King Tubby's story not confirmed, but who cares anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 6:53 pm    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

Red, i'm kind of have hard time to get what exactly your point is...???
You are talking about "criticizing it ..."
Criticizing WHAT?
Smoking in general?
Nah. I Don't. I personally don't give a s*t :) about if anybody smoke or don't smoke.
Who cares - that's wright.
I am sort of annoyed, however, when guys make sucha' big freaking deal about it (smoking). It's like if you don't smoke - you don't know or don't understand somthing really magic, mysterious, even spiritual and holi(ish) :)
Well, I maybe just talk for myself. The simple thing for me is: I don't need to smoke to play bass, or to be able skankin' or dubbin' If somebody does need it - well, that's fine with me too ..heh heh ...
Also I know allots of guys who smoke like old train - almost constantly - and they hate dub music and the whole culture as whole, or I know smoking producers who can't dub a s*t, really ... so where do we go from here?

And man, spiritual maturity? Is it what smoking gives you? Lol. Is it something like: Now you smoke - and thus You have become a REAL MAN. Give me a breake.

reagrds and respects,
/Mike Zee, aka Dr.Zee

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Red



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:22 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

Sorry bro if i ennoyed you whith what i wrote, iam just exchanging opinions. But like I said, some might never understand what i write, some say it's just another guy "trippin' on some shit". Fine. But some understand deepely what is really behind using herb, "the healing of the nation". When i wrote "Maturite", i was not talking about being a man, but about being human. Can you see the difference?
Maybe it only applies to me, maybe for you using the herb was a failure.
Keep trying you'll get there

and i give you a break for now,

guidance.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 11:05 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

No, Man, You're not sorry... I know how it goes.
...iam just exchanging opinions
So am I, man....
It's just some guys somehow think that their openions need some HIEGH level of brains and BEING in general to "understand".
Again, the 'smoking' isn't an issue here at all. Nor culture of it (in any forms).
The issue here is: "How to play Guitar skanks" - simple and plain.
You wanna play - then play.
You wanna smoke - then smoke.
If you can't play.... then what? You can smoke, I guess. Will you be a better player if you smoke whith deep "understanding"?
Maybe...well, I guess. It's pretty loughable, thou...
But, here's what's not laughable at all. Ready? Here it is: I dont need Herb To be A HUMAN BEING.
It's too bad, that some guys need it to feel being human... :(
It may take some level of REAL maturity to understand what I'm saying.

think about it

best regards and respects,
/Mike Zee

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Red



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:01 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

OK. Mike Zee,talking about music, that sound that u make, u call it " DUB "???????
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Red



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:16 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

It could be called electro dub or some like that.
Well, maybe it's your own style. I am not saying nothing bad about it but i think that too muh "extras" and "effects" on a track kinda kills it. You titled your song "wicked roots dub", i see roots as simple music.
Alot of people been calling their productions "dub". Give back to Dub what is to Dub.

Anyway, you kinda got on my nerves so iam attacking your music now...heheheh..just kinding man.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 5:26 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

I know, man, I suck ... 'cos I don't smoke.

be well,
/Dr. Zee

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 6:03 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

ohh, a btw, just so you know.... I don't make my DUB to please any mud-head on dirty earth. I just do it. And thus I don't ask no care about 'opinions' about what i make. you can keep it for yourself.
At least my dub is MINE, and I don't parasite on somebody else's talent, I don't take other's singing, playing recordings, I don't re-record / re-arrange it and then call it "my" productions, like many ever-beloved selebs in dub has done... and still are doing.

/regards,
/Dr. Zee

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:11 pm    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

admin: this topic originally started on the "rhythm guitar" discussion. i moved all weed posts here now..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:53 pm    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

Thank You, Daniel, :) Rightious move, man.
******

aside note to Red.
Just want to add for Ya: before you comment on somebody's music, you better know it first, so at least you know what you are talking about. Get couple of full real-CD albums, listen to them through on REAL system with clean and open mind. Then you can critisize it as much as you wish. Well, I don't mind anybody say anything about anything regardles. I am an ABSOLUTE FREEDOM fan (freedom of anonimous speech is included :)), but when you make comments about something you don't know - it's baseless.

regards'n respects,
/Mike Zee, aka Dr. Zee

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 9:14 pm    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

calling anything dub these days... don't even go there and call some of ur stuff "roots". To make "roots reggae" u have to feel the pain. Do u feel the pain? What process do u follow when creating "your dub". No comparison between ur stuff and original dub creators such as King Tubby, S & Robbie, Scdientist and so on (or even new age Jah Warrior, Minds' Eye ect...)... Been in the industry for a while and seen alot of people making "rythm" in their home studio without even knowing what they are doing or where they want to go artistically.
No baldhead Babylonian can make roots reggae.

Red.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 1:26 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

Red, there's one thing you don't get - and never will. I don't make somebody's roots dub. I make MY roots dub. I have MY ROOTS and proud of it. I don't 'borrow' from no-one nor pretand to be somebody else. Nor I care to be compared to somebody else.
But again, you are commenting on artist you don't know. You see picture - and this all you need to make your miserable conclusion. I know guys like you. They are hopeless. They never made it out of the past. Be there, Stay there, 'cos nobody needs you in TODAY, and nobody will need you in The Future. You can try to free yourself of hate (I know you 'd rather call it pain, 'cos it's easier to sell out), but hate it IS.

/Dr. Zee

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 1:38 am    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

speaking of 'INDUSTRY', where you've been for a while..:),
man, this is so silly, you don't even know how laughable it is. I never ask nor care about "invitation" nor "welcome" from that bloody 'industry of yours', there's much more of dirt, lies and greed in there, than any 'Babylon' could ever "dream of"...

/later
/Dr. Zee

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 1:40 pm    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

"No baldhead Babylonian can make roots reggae"

Define "Baldhead Babylonian" please, is it the
the usual rasta-racism ? I am not sure Daniel
provide this place with such arrogancy in mind

My best wishes for your wisdom to grow,..

HM
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 11:32 pm    Post subject: Ganja & Dub Production Reply with quote

HM, I can define it, simple as this:
Baldhead Babylonian - white skin man with short (or zerro) hair cut :)

If you fit this 'definition', then you suck in dub and reggae by default. (heh heh)
Is it racism?
I have my understanding of it. I don't believe it's racism. It's much more like primitive form of tonel vision of the world.
REAL Racism is much more ugly and dangerous. Also It comes in all colors. Rasism is Societal (or individual) Mental Illness, it's not a form of skin pigmentation disorder. No race, no religion, no ethnic group is immune from it.
I personally believe that racism has to be strongly confronted.
As for "mider forms", like simple cultural prejudice, - I don't really know. It's a grey area, sort of speak.
It's similar to what people may think/feel about white rappers of black heavy-metal bands. You'll fine allots of people who just can't take it 'seriously', which sort of makes sense.
Also, man, really, it is all so much different in different parts of the world. If you ask openions on this subject( cultural prejudice ) on the streets of Bronx (NY) or Amsterdam (NL), or Paris (Fr) or Moscow(Russia), or Tel Aviv(Isr) or Tokio(Jap). etc etc etc you name it - you'll find allots of surprises in the answers.

/respects
/Mike Zee, aka Dr. Zee

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