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Neil C



Joined: 25 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:17 pm    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

Pete- whereabouts in the country do you gig?
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Pete Collis



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:05 am    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

Hey Neil
we only play out a couple of times a year. The main reason for this is the hassle of rehearsals. I have to deconstruct my studio and take it all along to the practice rooms and then set it up again to continue working on the tacks. This can get a bit annoying. Lazy, I know! We usually play in the South-East UK. If you typr The Deverills into Google and follow the site that has "Panther Studios" in the address there are some photo's from one of our gigs last year.
Do you play in a band yourself? We can rarely find good acts to gig with in the area who play good music thats suited to ours.
Pete
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Neil C



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:01 pm    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

I have exactly the same problem - deconstructing my studio which is now cosily and ergonomically lodged in the corner of my room (in a kind of high rise fashion). I have been out live with it (very successfully)- but it was a bit of a hassle lugging the stuff then, and since then I've added more stuff, not all of which I would take out live but which means taking out the bits I want to take more of a hassle.
However I will be making the effort again quite soon.
I'm based in Reading, Berkshire.
You can check some of my music at:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/4/vitalfeedmusic.htm
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Pete Collis



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:51 am    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

Hey Neil
Whats the name of your band? Is it just yourself or are there any other band members? I'm only about 20 minutes away from Reading and it's good to know that there are other people making good music in the area. You know how it is, you always think you're the only one in your shitty town making this music (actually, in Farnborough, I think we are!!). Maybe we could hook up for a gig some time. I'm thinking about planning something for next summer (maybe at South Hill Park Arts Centre).
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Neil C



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:24 pm    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

The name of my act is Vital Feed - I've only gone out live with it once a while ago.
The next live thing I do will probably be a sideline project under a different name, but I hope to be going out as Vital Feed again at some point.
I've played at the Bracknell festival at South Hill Park for the last 5 or 6 (I can't quite rememeber) times its been on with another band I'm in who do African style guitar music (called Alanga).

When I played as Vital Feed it was me and one oher person. I mainly played bass along to sequenced stuff and my colleague was mainly playing percussion along with it all. But I also varied it by getting on to my electronics now and again and also doing some 'live' sequencing (on my hardware groove module - Yamaha RM1X). We managed to do an hour and a half which is pretty good for a first gig - and the crowd still wanted more. The next time I go out with it I'd like to get some more people involved to make it more live and ideally a kit drummer as well.

If you've heard my music (see link in previous post) and you think our bands/act would work well together I'd been really keen to hook up.
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Pete Collis



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:00 pm    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

I can't download but if you've got a demo you send me I'll give you an address to post it to. I've got some stuff I could send you in return. I'm also a drummer and I'm waiting for a project to come along that requires funky hip-hop beats. Maybe we could explore this.
Cheers
Pete
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HM



Joined: 06 Mar 2001
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

I just did hear his music from that link !!!

page loads very slow at my 512kbs line but
the streaming does work when activated

HM

btw. nice tunes
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McPullish



Joined: 11 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:09 pm    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

In reference to John and Mike's comments-I've played live quite successfully with a Mac running my recordings (all analog, real instruments, no sequencing) thru a 12 channel Soundcraft and some useful effects. I've had live musicians on stage (vox,congas,sax, flute), but I think for dub the engineer needs total control of the rhythm(drums and bass.) There used to be downtime between tunes from loading and closing each track, but now I use a Line 6 delay to create loops out of the tracks that run between songs. For instance-I'll record 4 bars of drums/perc., double time it and lay 2 bars of bass, guitars ,etc. and create a little "remix" loop on the fly that makes a good transition to the next tune. People hear this and usually enjoy the improv aspect. Every time I play it's different sounds. As far as dubbing live bands is concerned- it can be cool but is usually limited by the fact that most musicians (even great ones) are thrown off by truly crazy dub effects and dropouts. The "dub master" will throw in cool effects here and there- but it's not dub in the true sense of the engineer's vision. I've seen Scientist and Mad Professor "dub" live bands and there were some nice moments but not really dub compared to their usual craziness in the studio. As a dub nerd I'd trade the band for real dub, and the only logical way to do this (for me, at least) is a computer with real sounds on it. Spinning records is fine and the simplest, but for true dubwise action you need control of the individual instrument buses. This does require moving a lot of gear which is why I strip it down to the essentials live and leave most of the studio home. It's still much more fun than setting up drums, micing everything, and dealing with inevitable problems like feedback due to echoes, etc. Check my website-www.mcpullish.com- if you want to see pics of this setup. There are no rules and the sound is what should matter. Dub It!
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Meef Chaloin



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:44 am    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

Hey, that's cool to hear that there are people dubbing around here. Im in Oxford & although there are a few bands & shows about they're mostly dj's. Im working on a live set now, computer based & solo but i'll be playing guitar and didj live. Should be interesting if i can ever get it sorted out.


http://www.versionist.com/artist.php?artist=MEEF+CHALOIN
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Peter M



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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

that would be quite a sight meef...u gonna play the keys w/ yr feet too ?

Pete M
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Meef Chaloin



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

haha yes Peter, I'll have a midi pedal assigned to different things so I can trigger music or fx with my feet ;)
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Armin Tanzarian



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

refer to grimy styles. A dub quartet from austin, texas where each player is their own engineer, (including drummer)

www.grimystyles.com
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Downpressor



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:41 am    Post subject: How can you Dub live? Reply with quote

I've been considering this topic alot more lately. My studio setup is iMac/Logic/Mackie MCU based and I simply refuse to move it around. I considered powerbook|ibook/Logic & a Tascam US428, but I no longer own a functioning laptop so thats out of the question for now.

I've heard that the "delay between songs" problem can be addressed with Ableton Live, but I dont own it so I cant say. For me there would also be the issue of transferring my work between Logic & Live.

When I saw Mad Prof a few months back, there was little time lag between songs and it looked like he was working some kind of mixer. I'm thinking perhaps he was using some kind of hardware DAW unit like those from Tascam, Zoom, Yamaha, etc. I've looked at them a bit, but the low-medium priced ones have too few physical controls for me to do a dub mix (no per channel EQ knobs, FX/bus send knobs, or really any knobs besides pan on most units). Does anyone have experience using one of these?
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unityunityunity



Joined: 03 Aug 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wanted to say that The Drastics are awesome,

and an other band that does live dubbing is Dub Trio.



If you watch some live videos (probably on youtube)
You'll see how they manage dubbing live...

also a group called Gaudi.
Ive watched some of their live performances online..
they've got guys all over tweakin stuff.
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