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Post by james verner » Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:09 pm

hi my name is jimmock i am a bass & keyboard player most of my music (when i am on my own)is very much dub reggae sca & funk orientated. what i am looking for to get the best out of my music is a wav sample cd on dub reggae. i run fruity loops 4 software and cakewalk pro audio.so if there is someone that can help me in any way to get me out of a rutt i will be in your debt. my dream in life is to jam with a top dub reggae band so big up the people who brung dub music to the world

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Post by interruptor » Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:56 pm

i'm not really up to date with the latest sample cds. my previous experience was that most "construction kit" based sample cds for a specific music style are perfectly fitted for people who need to quickly create music for commercials - but not much more.. therefore i advise you to listen to a sample cd before buying it. <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... ntract.gif"> <BR> <BR>i personally like the sound of the handplayed drumloops on a sample cd called <A HREF="http://assessment.iupui.edu/sample/READ ... ">"virtual band - roots reggae"</A> which is not sold anymore. <BR>but part of these sounds can be bought as a <A HREF="http://www.primesounds.com/prime2/sampl ... ownload</A> <BR> <BR>bill laswell's dub tactic manual is now available as a <A HREF="http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... ultiformat cd</A> with wav files included. the price is lower than the audio cd - this makes me think they probably only used part of the original content. <BR> <BR>also <A HREF="http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... 52">Reggae Connection</A> has wav sounds <BR> <BR>or <BR><A HREF="http://www.soundscan2.com/catalog/catalog3.html"> soundscan vol.27</A> <BR> <BR>or <BR><A HREF="http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/detai ... 361">Dread Reggae Collection</A> <BR>i once listened to this one and was surprised to dind out that most if not all drum loops here are sequenced and sound rather synthetic. <BR> <BR>two more titles from big fish that may be worth a try: <BR><A HREF="http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/detai ... 24">reggae beats</A> and <A HREF="http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/detail.html?921">dub basics</A> <BR> <BR>hope this helps.. <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... laster.gif">

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Post by HM » Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:05 pm

sly&acute;s Drumsplash :-&#41; <BR> <BR>HM

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Post by interruptor » Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:58 pm

sly dunbar is a great drummer and he had a leading role in the reggae undustry for many years without any doubt. <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... orship.gif"> <BR> <BR>but i am not a big fan of the "Sly Dunbar Drumsplash". The acoustic drumloops are recorded in below average quality and the dancehall loops are from around 1993. dancehall has changed in these 11 years.. <BR> <BR>if you look for typical programmed sly&robbie loops and sounds from the early nineties the cd is good. <BR> <BR>also the snare drum intros are usable. <BR> <BR>i am refering here to the first release of the cd. since some time there is a remastered version around. <BR>in this <A HREF="http://www.numericalsound.com/smpcdgig. ... ription</A> you can read that they have now optimized the drum loops using equalization, removal of excess room ambience and timestretching. you can imagine what the cd was like before if this was necessary.. <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... isgust.gif"> <BR>also i ask myself why they didn't just hire the man for another few hours and tape a new set of properly recorded loops!

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Post by Mike Zee » Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:29 pm

from my experience... for what ever reason, but as for today, REALLY good reggae sampling CDs simply don't exist <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... rt/sad.gif" ALT=":&#40;">, not to meantion that there are very very little of reggae sampling CDs period. There's ton on d'n'b, break-beat, vary drum-loops, tech, house etc etc..., huge amount of hip-hop &#40;doooh&#41;&#40;some of them are exellent, btw... Loopzilla series is so cool you can simply listen it as is ;&#41;..he he&#41;. The CDs mentioned above are alright... but really they contain allots of stuff you'll never want to use for anything. <BR>Dub basics - is pretty cool thou... but it would be very useful for creating all sorts of downtempo fusion tracks/chillout stuff, but hardly for DUB-reggae. <BR>The only explanation for this, I can think of, is that for some reason good reggae drummers/performers have no interest in creating sampling CDs while producers don't see this field as marketable. <BR>S&R could produce absolute supreme library, but would they? My speculation is: they don't give a sh&#42;t ..he he he <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <BR> <BR>As for now, for us there are these options: Use individual drum samples and sequence 'dead breathless tracks' ... or get a drum-set and learn one-drop yourself, which only may sound as simple thing ..<IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <BR> <BR>/respects, <BR>/Mike Zee aka Dr. ZEE

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Post by HM » Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:55 pm

Yes,.. well,.. I have the old one,.. thanks for <BR>telling this, I intend to get the best out of it <BR>anyway, so I also do with killer-horns, I figure <BR>it is a good way getting familiar with my "new" <BR>www.vsampler3.com besides I will not be able to <BR>inroduce real drums in near future,.. I thought <BR>actually that drumsplashs was "the creme" but it <BR>sounds now more like that I am a unikum in case <BR>I get something good out of it :-&#41; 100 euro :-&#40; <BR> <BR>Anyway sample-CD&acute;s never realy appeared to me,. <BR>but for the reasons mentioned above I consider <BR>to use,.. what I dislike is that the loop does <BR>determin the "procces" far to much, however in <BR>the sly case I whant live this out completely <BR>and simply sit listen the riddim&acute;s and let the <BR>riddims be the main inspiration to build on <BR> <BR>As I hear it is old Black Uhuru tracks and such <BR>so they got names like "sitting" , "commin" , <BR>"slaughter" , "puff" , "wicked" , "guess" , <BR>"red", "shine" , "mystic",.... etc. etc. <BR> <BR>Guess it could be fun to see where these old <BR>riddims could take me 10-20 years later, there <BR>is the single drum sounds also, some ok, any- <BR>way it will give me deeper insight in vsampler <BR>at the same time, while I still hope for a <BR>future with real instruments foremost,...... <BR> <BR>Actually with a little good connections it IS <BR>possible to hire a REAL horn-section, if ones <BR>material is worked out good, I will try with <BR>killer-horns but I have a bad feeling already <BR>now, and most certainly I will be carefull not <BR>to use to much time getting autenthic phrase, <BR>it will never be, it was not made for me ;-&#41; <BR> <BR>HM

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Post by interruptor » Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:31 pm

about horns: i just ordered a akai disc for trumpet, trombone and french horn &#40;<A HREF="http://www.bestservice.de/detail.asp?ui ... 8">xsample cd3</A>&#41; hope this helps to improve my horn riffs which sound pretty saxophoney up to now - sax is the only horn i can play &#40;hear <A HREF="http://www.interruptor.ch/audio/confide ... >confident dub</A> as an example&#41;. <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... rt/ape.gif">

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Post by HM » Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:42 pm

I sounds good <BR> <BR>Is this two real saxes played by you ? <BR> <BR>I recieve in 32 Kbps stream, is that <BR>determid by you when mastering file ? <BR> <BR>HM

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Post by interruptor » Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:29 pm

it's alto sax &#43; melodica but i don't remember how many voices of each. there may also be some acoustic piano multisample playing the same line at a low level. <BR>it's just a 32K stream because i am limited on server space and also because i want people on slow lines to be able to listen.. <BR> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... /snail.gif">

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Post by KoCha » Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:58 am

Long time didn't go here... <BR> <BR>I have hear somethings like "loopwise.com" which provide Sample Cd make by Messian Dread but i really don't know the quality... <BR> <BR>In all case.. sample is bad, make your own vibes... make you riddim ! <BR> <BR>It's much easy to build a beautifull riddim than found a good sample CD that fit with your style... <BR> <BR>Just my point of view. <BR> <BR>Jah Bless, <BR>KoCha <BR>www.Almighty-DUB.com
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Post by guest » Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:04 pm

i think someone from this site should come up with a good sample cd. id buy it.

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Post by Chuck Byles » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:55 am

Me too!

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Post by dubman » Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:53 am

DUB TROT sample CD from www.sampleshack.com

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Post by Chris_B » Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:41 am

Respect to all, <BR> <BR>I bought Soundscan 27 and really did not like it. I found very little usable material on that disc. One real dissapointment was there are only 3 basslines on there and none of em was any good. <BR> <BR>The Laswell CD is a mixed bag but I found some nice things in there. The basslines are mostly too low pitched to be used in anything but ambient but many of the rythm and FX tracks can be good background layers. <BR> <BR>PowerFX's "Roots, Raw, Reggae" has been my best score so far. Lots of usable drum, bass, guitar and keyboards. Pretty much nothing for horns though. <BR> <BR>Truth be told I still have not found a good collection of horns but I have not spent much time on it either

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