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Wich sampler for dubbing?
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yokala



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2001 2:31 pm    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

Hello!
I have begun to create some dub tracks with my computer an now I am looking for an hardware sampler (not too expensive!). So could anyone help me. I have heard that the Korg es-1 is a good sampler but the multi outputs samplers like s2000 are perhaps better for dubbing...
thanks,
yok
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Mike Zee



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2001 4:41 am    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

having 8 analog outs makes BIG difference for DUB production. Actually not just for dub, but it makes your sampler much more like creative instrument in general, and actually I'd say it makes hardware sampler a one head up above computer based software sampler (or application with sampler-like options, ala ACID, which is a sort of sampler/sequencer in a sence).
S2000 is a good sampler, but keep in mind, as I know, 8 outs and digital in/out board is an option for S2000, so it's extra cost. Also you really would need to expand RAM to max (32 meg) to make the machine more usefull for dub specifically, so you may actually sample larger takes, well, unless you just plan to use it for drums programming. If I am correct, bassic RAM is 2 meg in S2000. If you can afford, then I'd recomment to get S3000XL, it comes with 8-outs/digi-in/out board, and also it's much ..MUCH better operating system, much easier to program, edit parameters etc..., much better dysplay and its functions. People often may think that it's not that important, but you know after you work with the machine.... Weak point of AKAI samplers S2000, S3000 is that they only can use AKAI sample-format and it is a real problem when it comes to using computer for sample editing, storing, backin'up etc. Well there is MESA application, which is pretty cool, but not really that easy to make work. New S5000 and S6000 are different..., they can read/export WAVs.., well, are not cheap thou....
Yamaha A3000 and 4000 are great samplers, but again with options become sort og expansive.

sorry, I never used Korg(s), nor E-MU samplers.., so can't say much about.

good luck,

regards

/Mike Zee

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dubwisdom



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2001 8:17 pm    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

i just bought a BOSS Dr Sample (a.k.a. SP-202).

check it out before buying anything else.

-g
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dubwisdom



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2001 8:19 pm    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

btw, I use the sp-202 alongside a 4 track hard drive recorder ;)
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rudy



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2001 6:30 pm    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

hey dubwisdom ..i got boss sp 202 too ...but how can u ,make dubs with this little sampla ... Not nuff sampling time..no effects...for me its good only for dancehall thing ..litlle samples...
really let me know coz i am curious!!!! respect rudy
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Mike Zee



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2001 11:44 pm    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

newer SP303 which is some over $300 or so (i'm not sure), actually can have up to 64 MB (memory card), some useful effects, pretty cool knobs for real time tweekin'. And well, both SP202 and 303 are pretty cool boxes, you can load them with some cool sounds and mess-around with it. These guys I think are very useful for life set-up, I think.
But, just keep in mind, that they are PHRASE-samplers, which means that you can't use them for creating actually 'playable musical instruments patches', another words, you can not turn them into 'custom digital synthesiser'. Large custom drum kits, guitar patches, piano, synth pads ... if you wish to have this, you need to get something 'bigger', ;) You need sample editing, filter(s), envelop, key-assignement/layering, multi-sample layer, sampler need polyphony (I'd say at least 32 notes) ...etc. So, it comes to the point of you being able to use sample-CDs libraries or creating your own library...

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/mike zee

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dubwisdom



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2001 6:15 am    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

oi rudy!

you had to read my 2nd post.
I use the sp202 along with many other gears: a 4-track hard drive recorder, effect processors, guitar pedals and keyboards.
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rudie



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2001 8:50 am    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

alright dubwisdom.....me use it too alongside other stuff ....in studio sometimes for quick and rough takes i play over a riddim i made before...tthe box is funny but very limited ....someone have tried the new yamaha rs7000 ...kinda mpc akai machine but bigger ..an pricey
respect!!.
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rudy



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2001 8:52 am    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

forgoott to add....if u like boss sp202 ...go directly to new boss sp 505 cos its much,much more better..has sample slice functions...efffects... ecc..rgds rudy
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Badger



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 5:10 pm    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

If you're going for a rack sampler I'd recomend Ensoniq's or EMU's the filters are bostin, if your on a budget older 8 and 16 bit samplers are worth a look - you'll have to be more careful about sample length as there's usually not much RAM in these oldies but it's worht it for the dirty sounds.
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j.a.h.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

i use a korg es-1
its a nice sampeling drum machine .

sampler,sequencer,effects.
its best for making drum patterns.

then i use the MicroKorg synth.

and a korg d-1600 multi track recorder with built in cd-r.
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Jonny Flash



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:31 pm    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

Have a look at the AKAI MPC 1000!
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herb pharoah



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Wich sampler for dubbing? Reply with quote

The older Akai samplers (ie. S900 or its bigger brother the S950) defintely worth looking at.
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