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looter

Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 07:24 am:

How do i program old-sckool dancehall drum riddims into my drum machine? I like the sound of the early drum machines used in 80s dancehall (old barrington levy, dennis brown, gregory issacs, etc). at least i think its from a drum synth..

Posted on Monday, July 30, 2001 - 09:44 am:

Yes it's an old Kawai drum machine i think it's called the kawai 5R orso

looter

Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2001 - 04:02 am:

Is there one drum machine that's THE dancehall drum machine, like the way the 808 is for rap?

dubcreator

Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2001 - 10:47 am:

Yep that's the one... but it's all in the typical.
snare/rim that is used for dancehall.

interruptor

Posted on Friday, October 12, 2001 - 09:09 pm:

I think the machine DC is referring to is the KAWAI R-50.
I didn't find any other Kawai drum with a name closer to
"5R". You can find a picture and samples on this
page.
I listened to these samples but have to say that none
of them reminded me of the typical "ping pong" like
rim shot that was heard on many songs in the late eighties
and early nineties (especially on Steely & Cleevie /
Jammy's productions). After searching through my records for
a few hours I managed to rip a good example of what I mean
from the instrumental version of Frankie Paul's
"I want to rock":
click here (WAV-file 16bit, 44kHz) and have fun with the sample :-)

Does anybody know which drum machine Steely & Clevie were
using at that time?

peace
The Interruptor

Pete Walsall

Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 10:28 pm:

Does anyone know what drum machine the Bush Chemists use?

Massai

Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 08:21 am:

I don't know about the kawai R50 being THE drum machine for 80s danchall! I do know that Steely n Cleavie use to use a Yamama RX5, Roland R8, and a Oberhiem DMX. The DMX can be substituted by any of the first generation digital drum built by the U.S man dem. The all more or less used the same designed electronics, and were either 8 or 12 bit. If anyone needs more info jus let me know.
Later

Mike Zee

Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 01:50 pm:

Speakin' of DMX, here's the page where you can d-load wavs-samples.
They are momo. and sound pretty good.
If you use sampler, get 'em , it's a good extras for your reggae-beat lab, or for what ever else you may make:
DMX files (download),

and the home-page-DMX, with more info, pic of the machine (it's UGLY! he he he

), Q-A etc. is here:
DMX files home page

respects,

/Mike Zee
zee dub lab

interruptor

Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 12:54 am:

yo massai,
thanks for that answer regarding steely and clevie's drum machines. when info like this is rolling in it really makes me feel we are gathering knowledge here and it was worth it to start this discussion board.
lots of respect also to mike zee who does a great job helping out people with info and thus making this board what it is.

daniel aka the interruptor

Mike Zee

Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 07:40 pm:

Daniel said: "...it was worth it to start this discussion board"

*****
Daniel, just wanted to drop an extra note here.
I don't know, just in case your get feellings like creating this site and managing the board is/was a sort of 'waste of time'... well, I hope you don't feel this way...
I've seen some other boards/sites etc which are related to dub music. some are more, how shall i say this...,more 'filled with stuff' , but your place is REALLY well organized and it is TO THE POINT!!!!, which maybe is the most important in my view. Even, thou... it may look like there are no many guys hanging out here, or talking/posting, but I think it is perfectly fine.
Good specialized b-boards are not fast-moving blah-blah type of thing, you know...
And over time you've collected a real FIST of info on dub..., so
well, man, keep this place alive, it is a sort of unique spot on the net.

best regards,
/n' respects

/Mike Zee

interruptor

Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 12:20 pm:

here's a link to a page with samples of the yamaha rx5 mentioned above:
link to webpage

and here a download link for a sample set of the roland r8:
download(1.4 MB)

GARY M

Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:45 pm:

Interruptor , that snare sound you posted from Frankie Paul is THE exact sound that you you hear non stop everywhere in reggae. I would really love to know what drum machine it comes from as its driving me mad someone out there please help!

roman

Posted on Monday, December 29, 2003 - 04:02 am:

Massai is right. Oberheim DMX, Sequential Circuits Drumtraks, Linn they all had the same sounds. The rimshot posted is pitched down which is the only editing you can do on these machines for different sounds.

Derek

Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 08:05 pm:

Some of the sounds that are being referred to may just be the producers own sampled drums from earlier analog recorded productions. I recall alot of dancehall producers were using the Akai MPC60 for alot of that stuff (some probably still are) back in the late eighties and early nineties. Its all part of them creating the their own signature sounds that made them so successful.

-DM

Patrick Galea

Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 04:51 pm:

Dear All,

Really love the site. Keep up the great work. One thing though, why do so many people waste so much energy in imitating when they could be creating? The reggae greats did not hesitate to experiment and that's the most important thing in my humble opinion. Innovation is the key to great stuff.

Arv

Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:27 pm:

is probably mentioned before, but it is actually the rim shot from the Linndrum..
You can also hear this sound in early Prince songs!

Massai

Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:09 pm:

Greetings everyone!
Lost you all, but I finally found you all again - I'm glad to see you're all still alive n kickin!
I would just like to touch on what Arv has mentioned.
I don't think there is a problem with a man/woman trying to imitate a sound from an artist, group, producer, engineer, musician, studio etc. To me, itÕs just a question of whether they will grow to develop, and evolve past that. Not all reggae greats are innovators, and vice a versa. I'm not saying that you should not try to innovate, but we all haffi start somewhere - seen?! Back to drum machines...
In England, people are using drum boxes as doorstops! This of course means you can pick them cheap. Be very cautious when purchasing the first U.S. digi drum boxes,
as they tend just die on you. The parts are not that easy to get hold of, or they are obsolete. But if you you want warm, thick sounding drums on a budget, these are the boxes to go for. Haffi sign off now. I'm gonna fry some fish!
Blessed.

Peter M

Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 12:34 am:

after a bit of messing around I think the key drum machines are rx-5, r-50/e, oberheim dx (more so than dmx, this one has the classic snare sound used in rolls) and the roland 707

the "snare" sound is a rim shot from one of these pitched down layered with at least a kick, sometimes another snare

joshua

Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2005 - 10:24 am:

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brigite bardotmnn

Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 02:31 am:

Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt nicht errinern.mnn

Betting

Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 02:51 am:

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