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Neil C

Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 01:16 pm:

Noisevault now has some impulses in wav. format (for use in such things as SIR) from the 201.
There are 3 delays with reverb, and 3 without, and one that is just the reverb.
I guess you could time-stretch the impulses to get the delays in time with your track.
http://noisevault.com/index.php?page=3&action=file&cat_id=6&id=133

Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 02:14 pm:

Very interesting, thanks, as for I
not SIR o.l. pt. but maybe our host
could comment, he knows about this
but sofar assumed that convolution
was not for non-liniar algoritms as
far as i remember

HM

Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 02:19 pm:

Rated 10/10 ! Niel did you test yet ?

Neil C

Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 04:55 pm:

If I understand your first reply correctly, then SIR can handle non linear algorithms - by which I mean that a sample of delays will work as delays when used in SIR (these 201 samples did) or, I presume, other convolution reverbs.
What I was most interested in to hear was the reverb - which turns out to not as springy/boingy I would like.
If I didn't already have a really good delay plug in, I'd be really happy to use the delays.

I've also discovered another set of .wav reverbs from the 201:
http://www.geocities.com/vintage_impulse

Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 05:58 pm:

I qouted a thing interruptor said earlyer, that
convolution might be perfect to linear algoritm´s
like in traditional reverbration, while it might
be daubtsome how well convolution would work for
non-linear structures such as a boingy spring
based on logaritmic mechanical wierdness more
than simulated reflections, but none of us here
has tested spring impulses yet, if i understand
you correct this impulse does not impress you,
so unfortunately interruptor seems to be right

sorry for my english :-)

HM

Neil C

Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 11:56 am:

It's not so much because of 'linearity' that I don't like the 201 reverb sample. It is the inherent actual sound of the reverb that I don't want to use (i.e. if I had a real 201, I wouldn't use the reverb on its own).
Interruptor is right about what he was saying -however I think that a good sample, of say, a Fisher Spacexpander, would be very useful.
It's the same difference between using a sample of a analog device or instrument and the real thing - for instance using a sample of a Minimoog compared to a real Minimoog - good but not the same - one play of a sample will sound the same (because it is the same) -but try arpeggiating the minimoog sample, and then listen to the real Moog being arpeggiated- big difference. With a real spring reverb you will get a varying response to different sound inputs (or even the same input), but a sample will be the same each time it is used.
However, you could simulate the variance of a real spring reverb by taking several samples and alternating between them (although this would mean having several instances of SIR going at the same time). A good sample set (or indeed single sample) of a Fisher Spacexpander would be something I would use.
In short, getting some good samples of a Fisher Spacexpander, or other boingy verb, is something well-worth pursuing.

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