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  HM
  | | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:23 pm:    |  |  
   for a cheap guitar ?    HM  |  
      
  interruptor
  | | Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 12:43 am:    |  |  
   I was in a guitar shop two days ago and tried one of those. I am no big guitar player at all but noted quickly that the hardware at the end of the neck started to resonate in the most ugly way when a specific note was played. Surely this was just a fault of that specific guitar but still.. You should better try the thing yourself before buying.  |  
      
  Mike Zee
  | | Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 03:36 am:    |  |  
  HM, you really MUST go to the store and try them out. The situation can be described this way,   : cheap guitars are built of cheap hardware in a cheap way (means nobody (no responsable human-being) really checks the product out... it's just generally automatic production line). So as result you have a line of products, which you really can not rely on...no guaraties here, and so the situation which Daniel is talking about is rather common. You may be lucky finding a pretty good cheap guitar... but you have to have it in your hands and play around. These guitars are just fine as a gift for a beginner guitar-player.... and that's what they ment to be like, really...  Having said that, again, as I've said before, nowdays these cheap guitars are much better quality, than they used to be, I think two factors here: first - competition (all major guitar makers are trying to compete for beginner/hobbiests wide market) and second: - technology, machines are doing much better job nowdays, you know      Also, again, cheak out Squier guitars ( squier strats ), I hear more and more positive 'noise' from pros about them, some even make comments, ala "Squier quality is so good, so I don't see a real good reason for paing $1000 more for american-maid Fender Strat...", which is kinda silly , but still... heh heh    Also, man, since you are not getting a guitar, which you need to rely on during performance and deep playing details are not the issues, then you'll be happy with pretty much any guitar, as long it does not have some real UGLY problems, like completely no-tune-holding...or buzz all over .... Just go to the store, plug to the amp and play the guitar.... go through the frets on every string/every fret.... play easy and forcefully, do some string-bending, listen to the 'clean sound', play some sliding chords, play hummering/holding (no-picking)...should have some so-so clean note-tone.  If the only option for you to buy it on-line or through catalog, then, man, I don't know, you simply can't expect much.... you only can hope and count on God's Will and Holy-Spirit... hah      good luck,  /respects,  /Mike Zee aka Dr ZEE |  
      
  HM
  | | Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 04:55 pm:    |  |  
  God and Spirit is as real as  THOMANN´s  30 day money back customer warrenty    Anyway I will probably order on-line in  germany, prices are 2-3 times higher here  my brother has been looking for a seccond-  hand for over a year now in the same price  range, but for no use,. he knows the head-  noise and say it´s easy fixed and promise  to adjust the hole guitar for me,.. worst  case return,.. the more expensive squire  might arrive as a bad model also,.. think  I take the chanse, some reviewers on HC do  complain becourse this is not a pro heavy  guitar,...  well what can I say,.. I need  some 12 and 13 size conga-bags anyway :-)    Having a raptor-gigbag also makes a trinity    HM |  
      
  Mike Zee
  | | Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 05:36 pm:    |  |  
   just go for it, man... make sure you get the 'right' color, heh heh It's great that your bro can help you out. BTW, guitars are those kind of instruments: a great guitar in the wrong hands and screwyyyyy "care" can be turned into really ugly-sounding crippled 'monster'. Well, I can't say that this does work otherway around thou  ..heh heh, I mean if you know guitars and can really care, got ear to hear, well, you can sort of keep a "bad" instrument to its top limits... but that's about it. And, well, really the demands are growing as your playing technique(or style)/performance gets more sophisticated and accurate, then every detail of the 'instrument's performance' (or say: response to your movements, call it - playablity of the instrument: good playablity is 'right' response to your move, but you only can judge this when you KNOW your moves and know what the response 'should be' like) becomes an issue for you.    okey, man,  good luck and stuff...    /respects,  /mz aka dr ZEE  |  
      
  HM
  | | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 11:07 pm:    |  |  
   On it´s way :-) , black like my Riverhead Bass,  yes how terrible if a pink guitar arrived after  waiting and waiting :-) I will return with info  if it´s hot or not,. fortunately I don´t expect  more than being "useable" and "tuneable"    HM  |  
      
  Mike Zee
  | | Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:05 pm:    |  |  
  HAH COOL!  Black is a very solid choice! But it is not a color. It's absence of any color (it's a visual image of a surface of a 'light-terminating material')....    Blue isn't a color either. It's an attitude...    blah blah....  Pink? heh heh.... oh boy.          /later man    /mz aka Dr ZEE |  
      
  HM
  | | Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 12:29 am:    |  |  
   Ok,... after week´s of struggeling with thomann  who did drain my visa with no delivery :-(  now  finally recieved the thing, looks nice, will be  handed over to my brother imidiately adjust new  strings bla bla  ,...... to be continued    HM :-)    btw. box had a pic of a red raptor, but opened  up I could dry the sweat away from my forehead  |  
      
  Mike Zee aka Dr ZEE
  | | Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 01:59 am:    |  |  
  rofl      it would be really funny if you sent it back without opening...with letter attached: "DAMN! I Asked for Black! Give me my black raptor now!" ha hah    /mz |  
      
  HM
  | | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 12:19 am:    |  |  
   Got it back, all well, keep´s in tune very  well, for days :-),..  even when the "tune  -twister" (handle) is activated many times    The neck is very nice, strings close but no  noise, tune remanins over the hole neck, a  long metal-bolt through the neck enables for  later adjustments    Performing like something at least twise the  price, finish is OK, the gigbag is not heavy  but usefull supplyment, cable + neck-carrier  also, pick-ups ok, extra spring, unbraco´s etc    Have not been recording yet, I am moving to  Copenhagen city, restoring a flat,preparing   for a smaller set-up,. it´s all in boxes :-)    A lot have been sold,.... new things ordered  and the the emu-card I consider still, drums  will be removed to other adsl connected studio  but that´s much later,...    Thomann have been terrible this time, new order  at Digital Village UK, 2 x B1´s, Halion2 bundle     with "latin pecussion" etc. and some dub/ragga-  CD to insure the minimum 250 pouns limit :-)    ME-6 pedal I keep, have not found  alternative  yet GNX-2 maybe, no hurry about that, behringer  cheapo earlyer mentioned came short as delay  could only be "tapped" in    HM    HM  |  
      
  Mike Zee
  | | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 03:35 am:    |  |  
   HM, get an amp, even some cheap as cheap can be. Having a cab makes you a player ...heh heh :-), even if you perform only for your cat...still makes a difference. You just plug in, push button ..and play..., when ever you get a chance.  ;-)    /respects,  /mz  |  
      
  HM
  | | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 12:47 pm:    |  |  
   I have a little amp, as I failed to sell it :-)  A little Hohner (with no reverb), now I kepp it  can be used with disc-man also when practising  conga at other location, (down in the buttom of  the building I have a little room),.... I don´t  consider my self "guitar player", Piano, conga,  even bass comes first and then mixing obviously    But I can play most common rhytm/cords and also  learn some small solo´s ,.... the heavy stuff I  leave to my brother, but then again I can try  get close before explain him what I would like    Anyway did play a few hours and like it, it is  definately the best guitar I have had, 8 years  ago I had a "vantage-strat" and as a boy some  Teisco half-accoustic I lost when I lent it out  to a "friend" :-(      HM  |  
      
  Mike Zee
  | | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 01:58 pm:    |  |  
  what happened to strat? sold? trashed?? arrggg?  .... that could be couple of thousands $$$ or more ...well depends.    Cool, man, glad you've got the instrument you're happy with. And keep the lil'ampy', don'trash it      /mz |  
      
  HM
  | | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 03:51 am:    |  |  
   easy,.. it was not a fender-vantage but just a  "vantage" strat-copy (by name) ;-) ,. guess it  was 3 times as expensive but only half as good  as the raptor, yep keep the amp, got a tuner,  got ME-6 for an start, anything I need for now,    It´s just REALY irritating that these POD´s and  amp-simulators multi-fx comes in either guitar  OR bas versions, even more as they are identical  at hardware-level, I would like a combo with an  SPDIF out, but it does not exist,...     btw. thanks for the help and comments, it´s much  appriciated every time,... I have taken a chance  and ended with a good result,.. the noise Daniel  mentioned was fortunately not at this one, only  regret was using Thomann, I will only use them  COD for the future, for extremely good offers  only, and if things don´t arrive give a damm  not even send one single email, they are idiots    HM  |  
      
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