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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2001 - 03:43 am:   


I was wondering which mixing desks you think are good and why (please dont tell us about your mackie!) older the better!

mine is:

Tascam M2600MKII 24x8

nice sounding board with many routing options, eq sounds pretty good also fairly cheap considering its a fairly professional boards, buy a few patchbays and you got a nice setup.

anyone know any good old 70's-80's desks?

Mike Zee
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2001 - 05:15 am:   

please dont tell us about your mackie

ghmmmmm, not sure what are you trying to talk about. Just about 'good mixing desks' or are you just in the mood for 'antique collectables" ;)????

I agree that some old equipment was (and still is) great, but I have some strange feelling about that 'dogma' that to be good it just HAS TO BE OLD!, the reality is that it is not the case. It's just an attitude which many producers got in their heads...for what ever reason.

There allots of new great desks out there, including makie. well, i am talking about the level of desks for personal production studios, something which doeas not cost more than your house :)

take care,

/M z

Posted on Monday, August 13, 2001 - 09:54 am:   

Tascam desk with good sounding EQ? don't believe that.


Posted on Monday, August 13, 2001 - 11:00 pm:   

To Mike Zee, well I am just interested in good old mixers that are cheap not just old for the sake of being old, there are a lot of new mixers that are great too, you could say that people think all the new stuff is better then the old stuff that could be another post, but anyway I think the mackies are clean and well built but I really dont care for the EQ or the the way it handles distortion.

DC, yes the higher end Tascams have a nice sounding EQ better then that of yamaha/mackie.

Mike Zee
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2001 - 02:11 am:   

as far as i know, (and know very little next to nothin'bout tascam mixers, cos never had any real experience with'em, I am just saying from what I know from conversations with couple guys locally who are in recording equipment business), the latest tascam line of desks (M2600MKII(s)) have some improved eq section, which, well being described as "more natural and more musical sounding eq ever tascam offered", as well these desks got meter-bridge option :), they look like very strong things, how they are really, I don't know. Older versions had some 'not very high respect' around. Why? I don't know ... Also I think that to judge eq-sounding is a sort of 'subjective' thing, and I think it depends on what kind of production producer works the most.
I like most tascam's recording machines (dats, taps, md, mdr(s) etc), I think this is what tascam is good at...

at home I have MX8000, this was the best i could afford, and well, it's just 'ok' desk as I think. It's not 'noizy' to me. The sound??? I don't know. All I can say is if my mix going good it feels like desk sounds good, and most of the time it sux :), he he One thing for sure about MX8000 (and I would think the same newer MX9000) is that hardware (sliders knobs) are not up to the level..., sort of week. If you be using the desck heavylly (which dub-production required) , then pretty soon you'll start gettin' scratches'n'glitches. I just have to deal with it and not to use channels, which are 'better be untouched' while recording. So, i gues, what I have, I would not recommend for dub-producers.

later, guys,

all the best n'respects,

/mike zee

Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2001 - 06:37 pm:   

Right now I use a TASCAM 246 4-track cassette machine that I'm very happy with. It's the biggest and most featured of the company's first generation of Portastudios. It has a 6-channel, 4-bus mixer and a tape section that can record at regular or 2x speed with or without dbx. I'm very pleased w/ it, it's a great piece of 80s technology.

Posted on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 11:16 am:   

Yes tascam is good in recording machines. But not in desks. I worked nuff different desks. My favorites are the Mackies and Allen & Heath desks.
Macke EQ is very good, nuff headroom and powerfull. I have a Mackie 40:8 desk and it will never leave my studio.

Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 11:55 am:   

big up all massive here.....yo dc has mackies onboard effects????
i am setting up home studio ...any suggestion for a good mix-desk with onboard effects ???
i have abt 700 $$ budget.....thanx 4 help____ respect

Mike Zee
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 05:31 pm:   

Mackie has line of desks w/on-board effects.
It CFX series w/32-bit effects. They are 4-bus board and available 12, 16 or 20 channels. Prices are from like from $580 through $900 or some around it, depending on model. I don't know for sure what prices are now on the market.
I don't really know how good/bad effects are, just never had a chance to hear. I think these mixers are pretty good for general productions needs. Well, not sure if it's good enough for dub production (i mean would you have enough channels and effects options, but it depends on how you do your stuff, i gues, what the rest of your studio set-up),

maybe DC has some more info 'bout these desks...

regards' n'respects,

/Mike Zee

Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 08:13 pm:   

Anything with 4+ channels, some kind of EQ and pan. Its not what you've got, its what u do with it. Simpler equiptment forces you to be more creative and learn new tricks.

Posted on Monday, August 20, 2001 - 11:17 am:   

Dunno bout the fx on the Mackie desks. my mackies don't have onboard fx. I prefer dedicated outboard gear. but i have to say a good desk is the most important piece of gear in a Dub studio.
Don't budget on a desk. Good EQ, nuff auxes are important in Dub production.
I agree with Neddy bout simple gear. You'll learn a lot in that way. but in the end when you have lots of experience you definatly want a good desk.
I started with an 8 channel, 3 band EQ, 2 aux. Then a 16 channel, then a 24 channel with 6 aux and 4 band EQ, 1 sweepable mid. now 48 channel 8 aux, 2 sweepable mids. So in fact the previous desks were throw away money.

Posted on Monday, August 20, 2001 - 09:59 pm:   

Hi DC and All

>> So in fact the previous desks
>> were throw away money.

A classic problem, some of us can´t
have it all in one stroke so maybe
money is NOT wasted if we got a real
got offer on something like Mikes
MX8000, I mean if the alternative
is being an old man, (like me), before
even getting started, MX-8000 can
be used in lack of something better,
admitted the EQ´s are not easy, but
at the positive side You got 24 pre-
amps at a use-able level and can start
multitracking without being rich or
taking up heavy loans in the bank !!!

Just My 2 Cent


Apostle Solomon Jabby
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 06:14 am:   

I think most new mixers are almost too sterile, they lack individual character. This is probably because most people into digital are obsessive compulsive about having an intensively pristine audio signal. The old Soundcraft boards are the board of choice at the Altar Of Sound...turn the key, bow the head, bend the knee, the devil's dead......

righteous devastation, Jesus Dread

Jabby heavy as lead.


Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 04:33 am:   

I use a Studio Master Mixdown 16-8-16...
does the job pretty well.

Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 01:53 am:   

Mick Harris, the man behind Scorn, great creators of digidub and colaborator of Bill Laswell mix all him recent records on a Tascam M2600MKII(s) and all sounds great and plenty of powerful basses, rythms and noises...check out Gyral, Zander or the last works for Ant Zen more into distorted drum & bass and breakcore.


Posted on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 12:09 am:   

I ve got my amek20(1973) since 3 days,i think i will never change it.It seem like modern homestudio's boards are made with cheap electronic,and real boards are to expensives.
The eq of the amek are like 20 bassman eq!
bass,high and a precence at 0.7,1.2,2.4khz,
a very simple, warmy and easy way to balance your sources or modulate it(;-)
It the first time i can hear my re201 loud
in my mix without a noise behind it,more adapted
to old effects perhaps,I heard a HH old board
who had the same look and sounding...

Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:01 pm:   

Mastering tips are always nice.

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