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Herbert Bowen
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2001 - 05:28 pm:   

I would be interested to hear what are your views regarding christian dub music. I have great difficulty with the thinking that the Word of God can be spread through what essentially is a very raucous, unmelodic, rough, uncultured genre of "music". It absolutely brings no glory to God.

Posted on Monday, May 28, 2001 - 06:36 am:   

Who is to say it doesn't give God Glory?? Any music would give God glory, be it reggae, rock, etc. What counts is what is in your heart. So play that Christian Dub Man!

Messian Dread
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2001 - 09:57 am:   

Hi, check out for some reasonings and meditations concerning Christianity and reggae music from a Jesus Dread perspective.
I am very grateful to be able to witness that many people have been telling me how Jah has blessed them through the music that I create in the Name of Jah. This is not my work but the work of Jah. Glory be unto Him that inspires me to make Dubwise music.

One Love,
Messian Dread

Posted on Monday, May 28, 2001 - 10:13 am:   

Calling Dub "raucous, unmelodic, rough and uncultured" on a discussion board solely dedicated to dub music can only be seen as a try to start a flame war. Which is not likely to happen with all those grown-up people using this board.. nuff said.

carlos the jackass
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2001 - 06:43 am:   

To herbert bowen: Dub is one of the greatest artforms to have existed in the history of human civilisation and fuck your god you stupid cristian slave trader and native american killer...

you can kiss my atheist ass, you ignorent fundamentalist cunt.

carlos the jackass
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2001 - 06:48 am:   

just read interruptor's reply, he's right...
we are grown ups i just want to say that a form christianism rejecting free human will is evil, the worst evil that can be...

atheist salutes, sorry for letting my passion for dub manifest in such a way but if their is to be a war to defend to i'am the first to join the army...

Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2001 - 11:42 am:   

Carlos, you're lowering yourself to Herberts level when you talk like that in the 1st post.
Dub is to be considered as top level reggae music, taken a step further than other music. Most hiphop, jungle, Drum & Bass is based on Dub riddims.

Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2001 - 02:09 pm:   

I think there might be some of the "raucous, unmelodic, rough and uncultured" thing in dub (I am thinking of Black Ark LSP)..and this is not a bad thing ...but certainly just some flavors, not the whole Ital stew. Another reason why this music is so powerful.

this is a fine, interesting, generous board for the reasonings of baiting should be posted. Interrupter?

The Interruptor
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2001 - 06:01 pm:   

you're right my friend, this is not the type of utterance I intended this board for.
as long as we don't have outbreaks of verbal violence here too often i won't intervene though.

thanks and respect to all you wise guys who contribute your knowledge to this site - thus making it what it is today

Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 11:32 pm:   

cool down man cool down

i dont belive in any kind of god if hes swirling around in the the sky or sitting in ethöpia
there is no god and there will be no god
there are just very very intelligent people who knows was up and there are some very very stupid people like belivers of chatholic church or allah and muhamed.
i belive in nature everything is nature so i respect it as my family without trees i cant breath without sun i cant live
thatz it THE NATURE is the best respect it or get shot. BO
200 years ago no body could understan that they should respect ech other and the nature but when you tell them that god come down from the sky and kick your ass then the people are frightnent and do what ya say.

now 2000 years later if you still belive in god or that shit then you are not much more intelligent than people 2000 years ago

then your job is to work in the field with no tv no internet no news then you dont know why it rain or thunder then it think god do all the things and when you want to live so just belive in any fucking Chuch of the gornment of rom or of israel or islam

the government just want to control the peoplez head

better listen to some bob marley music instead just king tubby dubs

i like dub and reggae and jazz and hip hop...

but first you always got to know the truth and one man is telling the truth I RUU and BoB Marley and other people like Pery or Junior murvinand PETER TOSH yeah listen to more rootz reggae for your mind and for chillout or dancing some other stuff
Just listen to the right peole and if you don´t know some just ask me i know a lot of peole who are cool.

Peace man

from germany,Mannheim

Mike Zee
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 05:43 am:   

i don't know how did i miss this "topic".

unbelievable >>>>>>

does not look like everyone here's 'grown up'..., very sad indeed.
why am i typing then here????
don't really know, to be honest.

i just want to tell this:

, yeah, speakin' of knowlege and 'level of intelligence' in the year 2000 :). >>> People who know and understand very little often feel that they have figured it all out, and therefor they know and understand EVERYTHING. However, when someone really achives high level of intelligence, then he/she starts realizing how small and miserable his/her knowlege really is.

so, just give it a time...

be-well, everyone


/Mike Zee

Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 10:24 am:   

Yes Mike ... true, i think Ruu is just an obstinate and ignorant kid, speaking against himself...full of respect one another but on the other hand fighting that. Disrespecting people who believe in a God. If man need a God, he has to judge for himself. And Ruu, please temper you language OK ? you got to learn alot, wisdom is the key to a higher purpose in life.


king stitt
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 02:51 pm:   

yo ruu ..what kind of crack are u smokin?? can u compare yrself and bob,peter tosh ecc.....????
better retire in manheim and eat some wurstel an kraut::::

Mike Zee
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 04:35 pm:   

...then your job is to work in the field with no tv no internet no news then you dont know why it rain or thunder then it think god do all the things ...
Ruu, I hope you don't 'believe' that it's raining, because of 'weather-man said so on TV-news', :)

also, I hope nobody here gets REALLY MAD at Ruu.
Let DaMan speak .... :)


/mike zee

Posted on Friday, August 10, 2001 - 08:29 pm:   

music is music
if you want to speak about god in music just do it!
if you making good music,who care about your religion??
and who said that dub is a very raucous, unmelodic, rough and uncultured genre of music?

listen to Perry´s "Magic Touch" and nobody will ever say it´s unmelodic.

And King stitt I would never compare myself with bob-M,p_tosh or anybody else

Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 04:53 pm:   


Posted on Monday, September 10, 2001 - 12:42 am:   

babylon me comin fih warn them
about they wicked systemmmmm

jah lives eternally

Apostle Solomon Jabby
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 03:26 am:   

Greetings, My name is Apostle Solomon Jabby. I am a follower of Jesus Christ, I am a creator of dub music, and there is no contradiction between these two. I make the music I make, I sing the song I sing, and I seek to glorify my King all the while. Any art form, whatever it may be, is not evil in and of itself, only the heart of man and its intent can determine whether it be evil or good.... Some may believe in Haile Selassie, some may not believe in any God, but I am not put on this earth to fuss and fight or convince any man one way or the other, but instead I seek to bring the light, as I have found it in Jesus the Christ and I let you decide for yourself, was He just a man????...or is He the true Son of the Living God of Israel who sits enthroned today at the Right Hand of God the Father Almighty?

Listen to the drum, and listen to the bass, the melody is in the bass.

Peace and Blessing to All

Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 07:08 am:   

glory, glory to Rastafari,..

Mark Levi
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 05:49 pm:   

I'm not trying to tell anyone else what to believe. Everyone has the right to their own personal relationship with "God" or "Godess" or "Love". but the fact is lots of reggae music is inspired by Emporor Sellasie and Jah and even though this is not my religion. Irespect these influences totally, they cannot be ignored I know Christian Reggae fans who won't buy tunes that biggup sellasie, but they'll buy Jah tunes. This is riddculus there is only one god and respect goes to him{or her]. AND RESPECT FOR DIVESITY AND other peoples beliefs is essential in these troubled times if the human race is to survive. one love.

Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 01:27 pm:   

Selassie was a man. I'm not gonna go on another issue about rastafarianism, but let's just say that Jah (like psalm 68 KJV) is one of the many names for God.

A man cannot worship another man, so give thanks and praises to Jah Jah king of kings!


Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 10:23 pm:   

There's a spirit who lives deep in reverb.
Dub is the sound of creation.

Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 01:44 pm:   

hey... herbert Bowen. I'm a christian and I think Dub rocks. I think maybe you need to listen to a bit more dub before you classify it all as raucous and un-melodic.
Besides, raucous and un-melodic aren't always bad- think about how dangerous it would be if ambulances didn't have sirens.... or what about the sound of 1000 kids laughing and playing at recess, their voices might be raucous and un-melodic to one person but musical to someone else...

If you speak with tongues of angels but have not love then to God it sounds like the clanging of a rusty gate.... or something like that. At the end of the day it's all about love i'nt.

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