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interruptor
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 02:29 pm:   

admin note: all ganja related posts in this topic have been moved here. so if you want to comment on the importance of being high when playing guitar, please do it there
 

RUU
Posted on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 11:24 pm:   

hi i´m nu in dub so i want to know how to get that typically reggae ching ching chong chong guitar sound.
 

dc
Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 09:24 am:   

Get a Phaser, the green boss super phaser pedal is the one.
 

sachamassagonna
Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 07:39 pm:   

Aside from effects...it also depends heavily on the strumming method...put your fingers in chord positions and press down slightly...practice changing chords while muting all the strings...let your picking hand do different percussive sounds...'chuck-a chuck-a' - down-up, down-up...'ching ching chong chong' - down down up up or up up down down...when you get a good riddum a gwan...then you can pressed down on the fretboard...there are actually quite a numba of variations...but they all fall under the umberella of the one-drop...also try switching the pick-up switch to different settings...

also the 'Small Stone' pedal is also amazing if you want a change from the phaser stylee...
 

Ruu
Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 07:47 pm:   

hi thatz nice of you all for tellin me which effects i had to use but i dont know the chords and thatz what i want to know please tell me dat cause im tired of using de open high for that tsch tsch instead of using the guitar ching ching style. much thanx to DC cause i didnt knew if those boss phasers are boss for dubbing thanx

and thanx to sachamassagonna.
peace
Ruu from germany.
 

Ruu
Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 10:59 pm:   

Hi
I need some chords for the guitar
please
 

johny2bad
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 01:32 am:   

check out

www.google.com

search for -

'reggae tablature' or 'bob marley tablature'...take it from there...chords help...but it is the strumming method that counts and give it the reggae riddum...i suggest watchin some old reggae live on video and check out their style...
 

Mike Zee
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 12:51 pm:   

here's link:
get zip here,
you get chords with lyrics of some king's songs :),
have fun,

also, just what guys are saying above, it's not much about 'chords progression', but more about how you play.

b-well,

/m z
 

king rocker
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2001 - 09:09 pm:   

full bar chords work best, sometimes triads
i tink some keys sound better than others (c and a flat maj, a and g minor). it is all in the strumming...listening to lots of reggay and dub will make you play better...and allow you to play with more style.
soundwise...fender amps work well and guitars w/ humbuckers in the bridge sound wicked.

on playing bass...play w/ your fingers over the upper end of the neck, roll your tone back for someting reel 'eavy n loaded wid dyna-mite...
 

kris collins
Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 03:39 pm:   

if your trying to get that chanky sound play dead notes on the guitar by not pushing down the strings enuff so the note doesnt ring. you can do quick releasesby pushing down and lettin go as soon as the note rings. or you can do the ska type one by doing a down and up stroke you ring the first down stroke then play the dead up stroke.
phasers dont really make that sound but if you put your pick up on the guitar on the thinnest tiny sound usally at the bottom.
for chord progressions try bar chords A G D D etc
 

luc
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 11:38 am:   

greetings

don't play all the strings, use d/g/b/e only. use hard picks and hit hard!

equipment-wise: if you can get your hands on a roland jazz-chorus, it's gonna sound nice.
luc, guitar scrucialists
 

ruu
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2001 - 12:57 am:   

thanx for your help
but check this site i´ve found today.

http://www.geocities.com/kalakako31/p_princ2.html

there are a lot of bass tabs for some great reggae songs and a lot of guitar chords.

peace,
 

Yvo 2000
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2001 - 10:45 pm:   

Hi Ruu... if you mon can no play that guitar thing why do not try to use a sampler ?

I know you mon sed u no mess wit no digital thing but this will help u a lot and mek u mix good dub vibrations earlier than to wait until u got that guitar skank technik...

there is sampling cd on the market... some like "ROOTS REGGAE VIRTUAL BAND" by SAMPLING SOUND SYSTEM...

then choose your chord to fit with your bass line and have some imagination for the rythmic and the efx (filter, EQ, distortion, phaser, chorus, reverb, echo). With heavy practice you will get a very realistic guitar skank... better than a no good guitar player... even if the best way is still to ask someone who know how to play good...

HAve a good time learning dub music...

YVO 2000
 

Sean Oliver
Posted on Monday, September 10, 2001 - 07:27 am:   

The "guitar ching" is simply a gtr AND the piano playing the skank at the same time.Thats why it sounds the way it does.The piano is usually mixed rather quietly,so it doesnt really sound like its even there...
 

choppa from the UK Players
Posted on Monday, September 10, 2001 - 03:27 pm:   

The function of the rhythm guitar is usually more percussive than harmonic (ie the notes in the chord)- it ALMOST doesn't matter what notes you're playing. Try imagining that you are playing a cabasa or a shaker or something. Play around with the amount of note-ness in the chop by varying the amount of pressure you put on the strings - also try raising or lowering your strings and seeing what effect it has. For a really tight sound put a piece of rag or a sock or something in between the tailpiece and the bridge or behind the back pickup - deadens the strings really nicely but watch your intonation!! USE A WAH-WAH!! - difficult to get it just right but always hits the spot - Pete Tosh was great at this but also chech "Wah-Wah" Watson on loads of classic 70's funk & soul tracks - if you hear wah wah there's a good chance its him!!!
I agree with the other guys - it's also got a lot to do with the piano. Use a real heavy pick and play the top 3-4 strings

sounds real simple but actually kinda difficult to do really well!!!
 

Looter
Posted on Monday, September 10, 2001 - 08:11 pm:   

Heres an online lesson on playing ska and reggae guitar:

http://www.wholenote.com/default.asp?src=l&l=1184&p=1

peace,

looter
 

nematod
Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2001 - 03:45 pm:   

The boss phaser is ok , the small stone is a bit better ,MXR have 2 nice phasers , the phase 9o and the better pase 100, but the Mutron Bi-Phase is the ultimate!!
 

dizzy
Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 05:16 am:   

its easy shit man
 

ben kudos infant
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 08:35 am:   

hi!

i is hoping all is well with one and all.
in regards to getting that reggae sound, you can alter it a lot depending on what pick-ups you put in your guitar. the bob marley sound is two gibson p-90's, one on the neck, one on the bridgem set on a blend between the two.
it gives the most awesome, manipulatable sound. almost a hollow 'chuck-chuck' sound, but with a great tone balance.
hope this is helpful.

peace, love, unity.

ben from kudos infant.
 

bri
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 02:24 pm:   

mute with palm........feel the riddum...think percussive..........close your eyes
bri
 

Mike Zee
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 06:34 pm:   

****piano is actually the percussion, and the drums is the melody. the bass is the happy medium in between!!!! ****
well said,
Marco G, that's a good way to picture it.

actually in my mind 'bass' is 'the melody' and drumms are a sort of 'skeleton'...., but i guess you can twist it in many ways :),

respects,

/Mike Zee
 

acetateattack
Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 10:45 am:   

Maybe piano/skank the percussive, definately bass the melody.....drums.hhmmm maybe the feel. Ive had a straight 16th hihat, rim&kik on the third, then added slight slap-back delay on the hats, and the feel has changed considerably.....more groovier and in the pocket
 

jasonf
Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 07:44 pm:   

It's all in the attack. If you are say playing an a triad on stings 1,2 &3 @ the fifth and sixth frets, Use your pick to attack the strings with even, hard precision, and then mute rythmically with left hand. All the effects are nice, but you could sound good doing that completely dry too, and use effects later.

Jason F

san francsisco
 

SonicBoomBarney
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 04:06 pm:   

Easy...

I think something very important in dub reggae (and all other music) that hasn't already been mentioned when playing is the connection of the body with the head and guitar.
For instance, if you are sat down recording guitar, the timing will improve loads if you phisically bounce up and down with the beat, in double time if its slow dub. Dance, use your ass! Thats where the groove is! Just try doing a line slow, then try it moving... Your timing will improve!
Another cool tip is, if u have quite a melodic dub bassline, play along with the line note for note with a palm muted pick technique on the right hand. Add a little reverb, delay or phase. The beginning of "could u b loved" has this sound. Coupled with a nice sparse bassline this sounds wicked.
Laters

Keep that ass movin

Barney
 

Mike Zee
Posted on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 01:13 am:   

Ha! Barney,
i don't know about 'easy...' ;),
but you've made a good point about 'body work' :)

not sure about 'how much do you really need to dance', he he he, but some movin'-to-the-groove really works. I've found for myself, that it's kind of hard, or even impossible (maybe) to get/play right feel , seating on your 'A**. ha ha,
it just does not go right, sort of speak...

later,

respects,

/Mike Zee
zee dub lab
 

Brian Parent
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 09:33 pm:   

Imagine you are a small axe chopping at Babylons roots in a steady,unrelenting fashion. Hypnotize yourself with the constancy of the rythm.Make your notes short and the stroke of your arm long and followed through. IBdubbin
 

Luke Dansick
Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 05:54 pm:   

i don't listen to much dub, in fact i'm a metal head, but i found this site searching for home recording and stuff because i do a bit of this myself. when it comes to guitar i like to play all styles and i've never minded chucking on a marley cd. here's what i came up with playing around a bit. the easiest way to get started is to start with major root 6 bar chords. choose "happier" sounding notes as your root notes, i reckon go for G (3rd fret) C (8th fret) and D (10th fret). on a down stroke of the pick, hit the top four strings. on the up stroke, the bottom four. use palm muting on the 6th string creatively and rythmically, and use left hand dampening when you see fit. please don't limit yourself, though, as these are just my suggestions. you will of course need some guitar experience and a fairly decent technique, but practice makes perfect! hope this was of some help

Luke, Australia

feel free to email me any comments or questions!

good luck
 

garrafa
Posted on Friday, November 29, 2002 - 08:20 pm:   

Con la guitarra llevas un Skan ( like palm muting ) o toca sin pisar completamente las cuerdas..ese es el secreto.

FORMULA:
(hu-ah-hu) 2 veces en un compas!

Chido!
Juan Garrafa
Tabasco
México
 

johnforeplay
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 04:03 am:   

How to play reggae guitar? Listen to any recording with Earl "Chinna" Smith and copy copy copy!!! This guy is an musical genius, and deserves a reputation akin to Sly & Robbies. 90% of 70s reggae recordings feature him and I think he currenly works with Ziggy Marley (but we won't hold that agains him ;-) ).

Cheers. John Foreplay.

Also, anyone in Victoria Australia should come down to 'Rockers' on Tuesday nights at Ruby's Belgrave to hear to finest roots reggae tunes.
 

aleph
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 04:29 pm:   

you VE gotta have the reaggae culture to learn all the different ridimm
If you syncronise the phaser or filters with your
song you can get all the classical skank ever made
but you ve got to be at the studio , have the
felling ,and respect the tempo!!
 

hamster Alliance
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 03:01 am:   

the Typical Dub Reggae sound you speak of = minor chords.

example:

D, F, A - D minor.
D, G, A# - D minor 4th.

You can move up 7 from those too:

G#, A#, D - G# minor.

or do inversions of the chords:

F, A, D - "D/F"...which means D minor, F as the root.

Hope that helps and is what you were looking for.

Email me if you wanna discuss music.
 

Pete
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 11:10 pm:   

When I play guitar on reggae/dub songs I usually don't the guitar as guitar! I use it like a percussion instrument.
I play it on the upbeat without putting down the fingers and make chords. Mute the strings with your left hand and use your right hand to make the percussive sounds. try it out with a wah-wah
pedal!
With singlecoil-mics and a lot of treble on the amp you get a really nice 60-soul or rootsreggae sound also.

KidPete
 

Reese
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 09:14 pm:   

How do you get the reggae sound out of a keyboard is it an effect or maybe an organ. Should I just play along with the guitar with chopy chords?
 

interruptor
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 12:14 am:   

Reese: Often the guitar skanks are doubled with chords from a piano (real piano or grand piano preset on the keyboard)
 

tubbyrule
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 01:12 pm:   

if u think of it it terms of beats ina bar- 1st beat - mute, 2nd beat - upstroke chord( but really attack the strings) 3rd beat- try playing the root of the chord, on the low e string(or a fifth works okay too) 4th beat - mute....repeat indefinitly -
goes like this...wok cha dung cha, wok cha dung cha ( also try adding a quick upstroke on the mutes - wokka)
 

sub
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 12:07 am:   

skank is much more feel than technique.
You should listen to the drummer, and fit in around what they are doing. their swing. Think of it like playing percussion rather than a guitar.

remember. it's a two way thing, if you start pushing the beat, the drummer will follow. best rhythm sections all lock together. The little guitar chicks and woccas make it sound like there is a percussionist playing at the same time.
 

Dr.Mikey
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 06:00 pm:   

Greetings ina de name...

Ima looking for amplification, i play the rockers and I need an amp to back me up, right now i'm using a twin fender ultimate chorus (solid state), looking for something with a bit more power, "oomphh" to it, more bottom, heavy -not loud, nice clear high that don't turn crunchy, high gain channel, vintage tube, tone, tone, tone... my axe is american tele. Any suggestions?

Nuff Respesc to all de enthusiasts who keep dis music true un appenin'... Check some irie music @ www.wellcharged.com, we livin' a Canada!

MikeyDread
 

Mike Zee
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 07:32 pm:   

Mikey,
if you want "tube-sounding" amp, then get tube-amp. :) heh heh, -simple isn't it.
Now, when you say "more bottom, heavy - not loud".... there may be a bit of a problem. hah :)
Well, I mean, tube=amps are damn loud...they just are. And btw, when "we say" loud - it's a very specific thing....basicly, it's like comparing two amps with the same power, same gain, but subjectively which one "sounds louder". see what I mean. So, another words, 60W tube combo is as loud as you can handle really...
Check Fender HotRod Tube amps - they are very heavy - I mean you need a good muscly to cary it around ...HehHe :) Or if you play only in small clubs , you may try Blues Junior and alike, Peavey Delta Blues - is really cool retrish amp less cost than retro-Fender amps, but gives you allot for a buck (also with trmolo)
There are "hotter and rockier" tube amps of course... they are damn expansive thou...

/respects,
/Mike Zee aka Dr ZEE
ZEE DUB LAB
 

bloodclot
Posted on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 10:42 pm:   

i just want to know what to set the controls on my amp to get a good reggae sound...bass, mid, treble.
thanks
 

G
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 07:41 pm:   

Best guitar skanks you'll ever get are produced by "half-muting" the strings, just don't press all the way down the fretboard with your left hand (kinda like when you are tuning).

Downstrokes are best, and HIT HARD. Better use heavy gage strings too.
 

splif
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 12:32 pm:   

I would like to have the same sound as the high tone's guitarist (or other dub band), but I don't know the effects that I should use.
I have a zoom505 and a Cry baby, if someone could help.
thx
 

DubsTotheFace
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 01:22 am:   

a cool techniq - put a sock n the bridge.

The basic skank over Dub Bassline:
Dull piano organ sound : \ \ \ \ \ \ \...
Guitar : | | | | | | ...

I think is possible to get more organic effects if you use your hands, not a plectrum.
And always use wah and a phaser
and not forgetting delay
and intervals of thirds sound nice too
also play it loud its just not fun otherwise
 

Simplifier
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 04:26 pm:   

tubbyrule, try as I might I can't get my guitar to go 'wokka-cha, dang-cha'. It goes 'wikka-wakka, tang-cha', but that isn't quite the effect I'm after...Seriously though man, a well expressed suggestion! (Wikka-wokka bang-cha, wik-wok banga-chaka, wikka-wokka wikka-cha, bang-bang chakka-wok - my latest dub...everyone like?)
 

tubbyrule
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 09:56 pm:   

i dont really understand what i meant now either.
 

Dugsy
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 05:03 am:   

any body know about any good reggae guitar synth
 

sniper
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 02:39 pm:   

i've read bout humbuckers, i think single pickups work better for streggae
 

BerZerK
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 12:23 am:   

Fender Strat the most versatile and recognisable guitar ever made. But i still want a Les Paul !
Hmm Dub lovely in summer and splendid in winter.
nice site BTW innit?
 

Motormind
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 10:26 am:   

I personally get a pretty good guitar sound by strumming the melody strings of my Chapman Stick ;)
 

Simplifier
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 12:30 am:   

chapman stick? that isn't rude, is it?
 

Chris Geller
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This is a little off topic, but I'm trying to find out what guitars and amps Hux Brown and Lynn Taitt were playing in the 66-69 period.

Also, anyone know what effect the lead guitar on Monkey Spanner is using? Is that an enveloper? T
 

noodlehoss
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 05:11 pm:   

Hi - I'm just visiting here. Is there a name for the single note melodic guitar parts used in reggae? The percussive, palm muted lines with lots of tripletts, usually on the lower strings...complimentary to the bass line?
 

interruptor
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 11:45 am:   

i usually just call it mute guitar.
 

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