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The Interruptor

Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2001 - 08:42 pm:

Imagine: A friend who is new to Dub music
asks you which tunes he should listen to as an
introduction.

Which tracks would you suggest?

Thanks
Daniel aka The Interruptor

dubcreator

Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 03:02 pm:

Prowling Lion "Disciples"

In fact allmost everything by Disciples

Respect
DC

Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 08:52 am:

Mad Professor "Your rights / My rights"
from - Dub My Cracy "1" - 1982 ARIWA

I find this one an essential Classic
UK-dub from the "middel-periode" could
also be the next tune "freedom chant".

Lets make a hate-list as well:

From same album: "DUB POWER" :-)

-HM

Looter

Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 06:34 pm:

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1392/JohnMcCready.html

John McCready's page has a listing of above-average dubs at the bottom of it called "Straight to Imposters Head"

Hoester

Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 05:11 pm:

My favorite Dub is 'Lift Off' by Dub Syndicate. (Bonus 7" to 'Echomania' LP).

Hoester

http://www.mp3.com/HoesterSoundSystem

Mike Zee

Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 06:58 am:

Daniel, if you mean just to pick some out from what ever , including commercially relesed?

Not sure if this would make 'essential', but this track is just my favorite, also the one which maybe never become 'borring' for me, and it's a track wich turn my personal interest ON into making dub music.
It is: "Mystic" by "The Revolutionary Dub Warriors" from "Reaction Dub Part 1: Deliverance" album.
The bass move in this track is just 'genius' to my ears, and all other elements. It's just plain KOOL..., ;) The thing is, well, it's just like about dub music in general, you have to listen to it on good system and best quality of recording to really appreciate it..., you know, to pick something up, which also will sound interesting/attractive, involving as some streming format, for listener who sort of new to dub music...this may be a some hard task to acomplish.

be-well,

best regards,

/Mike Zee
/zee dub lab melat door dub
audiogalaxy.com/bands/mikezee

twinstanley (195.195.248.41 - 195.195.248.41)

Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2001 - 01:47 pm:

hello
old lee perry such as 'cherry oh baby'and 'city too hot'are my favourites.available on the boxed set and many other compilations.also the 'dub syndicate"or "african headcharge" available on napster etc.
cheers tom

Ralf

Posted on Monday, April 02, 2001 - 12:15 pm:

Greetings,

I'd say essential tracks are:

Disciples "Prowling Lion" (already mentioned)
Dub Creator "Dub 303" (or "System Dub")
Jah Warrior "Spiral Echos"
King Tubby (no matter which song of him)
Dub Syndicate "2001 Love (Iration Steppas Remix)"
one of the old Zion Train tracks
Mad Professor "Katmandu Dub"
Creation Rebel "The Dope"

Well, these tracks are essential for me!

Respect,

Ralf
www.dubflash.com

P.S. Interruptor, got a promo from the new Tanty Records release. Nice track from you there!

Holy Ghost

Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2001 - 07:56 am:

Hey all,

I always say you gots to get a couple of LSP produced killers down there if you are going to turn someone on to dub....

Songs like
"Silver Locks" (or any of the curley riddim)
"Roots Train #1" w/dillinger
"Foundation Solid" by the congos

Also "Emmanuale" by Dub Syndicate is the first "modern" dub style song to blow my ears off.. I always put that song at the end of mix tapes for people... Great first dub tune..

peace
matto (aka Holy Ghost)
Unity Soundsystem, Queens

Si Dubclash

Posted on Monday, April 30, 2001 - 11:15 am:

Anything off "Pounding System" by Dub Syndicate or "Starship Africa" by Creation Rebel are pretty essential

phil darke

Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2001 - 12:30 pm:

"Born for a Purpose" Dr Alimantado 7" vinyl dub one of my all time favourite dub versions.

twan

Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2001 - 02:03 am:

Justice to the people verse 2-(Lee Perry produced)

Dr Alimantado-Best Dressed Chicken/
I Shot the Barber

I second the Congos reccomendation as well. The ones mentioned above seemed to transcend the genre
the first time I heard them. Those were the ones that turned me on to a full time listener and enthusiast. "I man Free" by Watty Burnette and the "Justice" track are great LSP tracks that take the snippet of the first lyric of each verse and let's em echo and fade.

sean

Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 10:15 am:

i suppose these aren't stricty dub tracks but...
"Bird In Hand" by The Upsetters, an amazing song. it puts any "trip-hop" song to shame!! probably my favorite Lee $cratch Perry production.
"No Peace" and "Life Is Not Easy" by The Meditations,
"Dont Blame On I" and "Congoman" by The Congoes ,
"To Be A Lover" by George Faith
or any Black Ark era or prior Lee $cratch Perry or King Tubby from the 70's.
but if i was going to let some one hear a dub track the one i picked would depend on the type of music they were into.

luc

Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 11:46 am:

greetings

yabby u, deliver me from my enemies
fight jah childen, Dread Flimstone and Michael Prophet
Social Living -- Madrak featuring Devon Russell
marley, one dub!!!!!!!

all great tracks!

johnforeplay

Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2001 - 01:29 pm:

Hello

Recommended dub tracks????

Lee scratch perry - Pretty much every track on reel two of the arkology and a few tracks off reel 1 and 3.

King Tubby - sooo many killer tracks!!!!
hmm... King tubby meets rockers up town. A must!
Some of the King tubby meets rockers inna fire house tracks are superb (track names alude me at the moment). King tubby mixed heaps of albums where his name isn't necessary on the front but if you look at the liner notes you will find him credited.

Also check Keith Hudson - Pick A Dub. Some of my favourite tracks are on this album, such as Black Right, Dubwise part one and two. i think
this album is also mixed by King tubby but i'm not sure (if anyone has any information on this it would be appreciated).

Prince far I has some A grade material, dub or otherwise - Put down your gun, What you gonna do on the judgement day, psalm 24, dub encounter, head of the buccaneer.

Also check the yabby u releases on blood and fire. Actually pretty much any release on blood and fire is worth buying.

As you can see i am a sucker for the old roots tracks.

cheers

ruu

Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2001 - 12:49 am:

hi
there are so many great dubs i just name a few:

Artist---------Album-------Track---

King tubby---king dub---- 1.dub from the roots--4.african tribe dub---6.king tubby the dub ruler--10.executioner dub---13.east man dub---20.nice rasta dub.

and daniel if you need "essential dub tunes"
check the whole king tubby compilation "Essential dub" :-)
almost every tune on this record is really great my favourites are:1.silver bullet--2.a better version--3.the funky techno style nr.6sir nineys rock.4.the great barbwire disaster from augustus pablo....

some perry tracks like:magic touch---sons of the black ark(album:usetter shop vol. one upsetter in dub)--
ashes and dust--in the iwa--ipa skank---the long way-rost fish and cornbread or cornfish dub---almost every lsp tune is great

i think thats nuff´
´peace.

Posted on Monday, September 03, 2001 - 10:09 am:

Why are so many people stuck in the 70's when it comes to Dub. Nuff wicked works nowadays too. both yard and UK dub.

DC

rudy

Posted on Monday, September 03, 2001 - 06:36 pm:

yeahh dc u re right!!!russ d (disciples) dougie conscious ,jah warrior
lots of french stuff coming out these days!!!!dub attitude is
growning every day....the whole dub thing is not only abt the masters
tubby,sctrach or scientist ....people support the actual,new,fresh thing!!!
rudy said so... big up all massive !!! rudy
...

Mike Zee

Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 11:21 am:

he he,
yeah, well, guys, here's how i tink'bout it ;):
thre are:
classic(s)
essential(s)
recommendation(s)
favorit(s)

and...
and, tracks which YOU actually listen yourself allot and really like (love).

all these categories maybe sort of confused and mixed-up when the question is about "THE BEST"

i hope, i make any sense here, you know.

so, it's like very common thing. When ever people speak out "publicly", and the question is: "what do you think is a "best of the best"..., the answer very often falls into 'classic' area., somewhere there, where you sort of can't miss the "target", you know what I mean. Another words, if the question is: "who's the best music creator ever"..., and you say , let's see..., hmmm, Bethoven..., so you like at least safe, sort of speak..., even thou the music of Bethoven really goes over your head and make you snore..

,

well, i am half serious here, guys, cos I don't know really why is it this way ...
Nor, I dear would say anything strongly. But truth is, that I have a bancha of Perry's stuff, and was spinning it for some time, liked it for the most, and sure it is very interesting (but for me it's like from mostly historical point of view). So, it's like "Romeo and Juliete"..., sure is a must to read, if you are into literatura, but is it something you really think/or feel is absolute TOP...? I don't know.
blah blah,
the buttom line is, what I am trying to say:
I Love Classic Cars allot, but it's not what I am driving..., Ya'know ;)

pure respects to all,

'n regards,

/Mike Zee

scumdubpunk

Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - 02:18 am:

alot of cool dub songs done by the clash and lee perry "the guns of brixton" and alot of stuff off of the sandanistas

by the way its not really dub but pretty diverse
definately ethnic joe strummers new band the mescaleros

i had a chance to meet joe 2 months ago and get my picture taken with him woooohooo

l8r
scum

onetonofmarijauna

Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 03:17 pm:

Anything from Sly & Robbies cult classic :

BLACK ASH Dub

Mike Zee

Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2001 - 08:08 pm:

Yeah, speakin' of S&R. I absolutely LOVE 2001 release "Sly & Robbie In Good Company" compilation. It's a really very very very well produced album from audio through package..., it's a collectable, sort of speak... ;). I would not call this one as 'essential' as DUB, thou... But it's like "a must have" for your reggae general collection for sure.

..also, I just have to add here, well, just by the way. I've got that "sly and robbie drum & bass strip to the bone by howie b", and man, this one just totally did not go through my bone...., I don't know, but maybe with couple exception here and there through the tracks... it's just plain borring. maybe I just did not get it, or something .., don't know. But it's the one I would not recommend at all..., for anything.

respects,

/mike zee

mel

Posted on Friday, October 05, 2001 - 07:34 am:

as a starter, dub chill out, full of tracks by king tubby and lee perry. my starter and still one of my faves.

apocalypse

Posted on Friday, October 05, 2001 - 10:05 pm:

look here people, I just pawed over this list pretty quick but no one seems to have mentioned
ALPHA @ OMEGA, JAH shaka , ABA SHANTI I , doogie wardrop , The REGGAE ON TOP possy , BLACKA MIX ,
this list could go on and on , I know we should never forget our ROOTS but we must all look to our own futures and help promote the hard working artists of today!!!! Wich I am sure a lot of you are,
EACH ONE TEACH ONE,
JAH GUIDANCE & ITECTION,
THE APOCALYPSE DUB FACTION

djb1

Posted on Monday, October 08, 2001 - 08:10 pm:

hi all,

this is an interesting board & topic,
i would like to suggest some dubtribe, some of their earlier tracks, "samba" is a wonderful track, "sunshines theme" (classic), anything off of bryant street, "you are beautiful", or "cool breeze"

something new, "do it now", doc martin is coming out with a remix very soon,

love from san francisco,

cheekymonkey

Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 01:20 pm:

Here's my fave dub tunes to play to people who want to have a first taste of the monster that is dub...
Impact Allstars - Ordinary Version Chapter 3
Angel Dub - King Tubby and Horace Andy
Shaolin Temple - Prince Jammy
Ragamuffin Style - Jah Stitch
Parts 1-2 Dubwise - Keith Hudson

Tripeno Jeista

Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 08:43 pm:

Lee's 'Ashes and Dust'...the dog's howl says it all.

regards

Shadow Moses

Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 09:11 pm:

If all people could get a glimpse of Alpha & Omega's Rastafari & other tracks & albums,I&I am persuaded that most people out there would really enjoy the spiritual relieve that comes with listening to dub music.Also try out the Tassilli Players Wonderfull World Of Weed. Respect to the dub lovers of the world.Peace

natty-gyal

Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 04:28 pm:

i would suggest:
MAD PROFESSOR-The Inspirationnal Sound Of Mad Professor-track 17:"katmandu"
SLY&ROBBIE-Compilation Dub Chill Out-"burial dub"
KING TUBBY-The Fatman's Tapes II-track 1:"laser rock"

neil shock

Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 01:08 am:

possibly this will provoke some boos, but what about some Suicide? i heard "Rocket USA" and "Harlem" before i heard Scratch Perry, and there is no denying that the dub approach is evident, even if these are not dub tracks. they're great songs, spare and full in the way all good dub is. so there.

bcty jaques

Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 02:06 pm:

The vision and friends in dub-instrumental healing
just check it out.

Ryan Friedrich

Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2002 - 05:27 am:

There is one track that is my absolute dub favorite. Its called "Tubby's Dub version 2"
Its by Tubby and Augustus Pablo. It has excellent
use of effects in it. A must listen.

Ryan

Ryan again

Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2002 - 05:42 am:

doh I forgot to post the link to that song.
link

Thats a phat track. I guess its only on a special version of augustus pablo's original rockers.

That whole site is good its overflowing with phat dub.

give that song a listen

Dub-a-rama

Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 - 06:18 am:

My favorite old skool dub album is:
KING TUBBY - Dub Gone Crazy (BLOOD & FIRE)

Here's a newie but a goodie...
VARIOUS - The Best Of Wordsound Dub (RIOR)

WAREIKA

Posted on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 08:03 pm:

The best tracks to discover dub?
Well, for me it is the three albums call "King Tubby meets Harrie Muddie in Dub Conference" vol 1, vol 2 & vol 3. Heavy weight riddims + very fine productions = my favorite dub albums.

Respects 4 all
wareika

Budapest Rebel

Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 11:05 am:

Feel I: Dub World is the Web of Indra. Every part is important. I cyan't name One or Two songs/cuts, if sumone wants to know what is it, the meaning, the history, the feeling, then it takes Years. Maybe U know a few tracks only, but you still need years to understand background culture, the roots...

If you want to discover Dub, check every sound, space, vibe around you, then comes delay, bass, heartbeat, God.

Here in Budapest WE are rebel crew. Check albums:

Naga - Styledrop (chi001)
V.A. -Dub Local

These are connected with Dub, but of course they have new directions like breakbeat (nu skul, drum n bass, even techno), tribal riddims, ancient samples and less live instruments.

Don't stuck in one era. Open your ears. Your Mind. I say New Vibes are coming.

MMMMAAAAXXXXX respect to that site - amazing.

Jah Love

Sam

Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 08:39 pm:

The bush chemists!!

Ombre

Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 07:47 pm:

I think most of the best dub tracks are already mentionned.
but i have suggestions of two original and little known tracks:
Arabix -Twilight Dub Sound System
sounds very great
and a must have:
Tikkiman w Rythm&Sound -What a Mistry
techno dub style, with the angel voice of Tikkiman
If u dont have money, dl these songs,they are two of the best dub plates i know
Love& respect to all of u (and please excuse my english

8000

Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 02:12 pm:

One of my faves is Scientist v Prince Jammy in "Big Showdown 1980". All Dubs on there are classics but the 1st track-"Round 1" says it all. "Spirit of Biko" by Jonkanoo Dub....s p a c e. For insane dub-Mad Prof's "Rasta Chase" from Escape to the Asylum of Dub.
Dub b b b b b bb bbb bbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb out
8000

Jahfari Dread

Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 07:36 pm:

Alright,nice site rasta ....let me put in my two dubs to it.

I'd have to say, since i'm a big fan of "live" instrument dub these are 2 of my favorite classic albums in my collection:

Aswad: "A New Chapter of Dub" ( a classic)82' release. Theres something about this album that pulls me in. Check it out. There is some cool melodies going on in it.

Ras Michaels & Sons of Negus: "Rastafari Dub"- this album is GREAT! Released in 1972 Ras Michaels put this album together and Peter Tosh (guitar) and Robbie Shakespere (bass)had guest appearences on it. Though it's basically an EP, it's definetly worth the price of whatever you pay for it.This one is a must have.

Both of these albums contain great groove oriented tracks and quite a few of them are funky.Check them out, you won't be disappointed.

To He, Royal Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie, I Jah Rastafari.

Peace and One Love to All...

Jahfari Dread

iza

Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:33 pm:

and, for recent ones, zion train ... zion train and zion train and zion train !!!!
thanx for this site, peace & 1 love

)

wackiness

Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 08:49 am:

I've recently introduced a few people to dub with Scientist Rids the World... they bought it the next day. Some others I suggest are Prince Far I "Dub to Africa" (especially the song "Internal Dub"... beautiful!), & the Upsetters "Super Ape." All these may be a bit played out, but the idea is to introduce newbies. Then, you can crack their skull wide open with deeper shit.
thanks!

Lost in Dub

Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 01:06 pm:

I'm probably relatively new to dub myself compared to some of you. I personally got hooked on dub listening to Augustus Pablo, especially his dubs of Jacob Miller tracks.

I guess king tubby is quite a good introduction, too. Most of my friends seem to like it.

I know some of you have suggested newer, more modern stuff but it's the older stuff that really chills me out, Lee perry, Prince Far-I, Israel Vibrations.

Happy dubbing

Ben Walters

Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:13 am:

The first time I heard DUB was at a club in Birmingham nearly 10 years ago, totally unexpected, back then could only describe it as Bob Marley on acid. First Album I got was 'Revolution Dub' by L.Perry, still one of my favourites. Keith Hudson (Brand, Pickadub) plus the Yabby You 'Beware Dub', the list is too long.
On a new tip, the Rythm & Sound comp is excellent, plus Aba-Shanti is a must at the Notting Hill carnival, inspirational!

Chrism

Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:31 pm:

I like the Lee "Scratch" Perry dub compilation album, "Upsetter in Dub." That album is on Heartbeat. Another good album is Horace Andy's "In the Light/In the Light Dub" on Blood and Fire. The vocal album and the versions on one CD!

albert lawrence

Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 10:49 am:

killler dubs
junior delgados fort agustus
and heart made of stone viceroys both from taxi

Voicelessness

Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 04:50 pm:

Long Beach Dub Allstars - Homicide Dub
Linton Kwesi Johnson - Reality Dub
Black Uhuru - Dub In The Mountain

james

Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:50 am:

mad professor-the inspirational sound of mad prof..the whole album is great.
Alpha & omega: mystical things, a very good album from very good band
I also recommend Scientist, king tubby and kapteeni ä-ni( a finnish dub band)

DankSkank2000

Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 06:30 pm:

One of the fattest Dubs is "Cobra Style Dub" by Aston "Familyman" Barrett

henrik jonsson

Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 02:00 am:

try travelling with king tubby to scientist to pole and back to prince far i.
and then start over again with making your own little noise with a comb for example and now in this mind state the dub is open.

Torkel

Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 01:47 pm:

Some great tracks to introduce people to reggae are:

Lee Perry - Money dub
Keith Hudson - I'm allright (my favorite), Michael Talbot Affair.
Scientist - Dance of the vampires, The Mummy's shroud (GTA 3 soundtrack), Seconds away.
Also Augustus pablo is a nice introduction but he's not only doing dubs.

Also for new dub I recommend everyone to listen to Sub Oslo. Great live dub band from Texas.

mart B

Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 01:33 am:

Anything from 'Zion Dub' - On Carls Records(New York) - a rare classic

sean

Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 08:13 am:

anything by sounds from the ground if they like ambient techno

stuff that is not stricty reggae or dub, but has deffinate dub roots - "wild dub" by generation x (bill idol's old punk band), "battle" by blur, w.s.d. by suede (err, london suede to us yanks), and of course any adrian sherwood/on-u stuff.

and, of corse, the reggae stuff...
king tubby meets rockers uptown, any king tubby, augustus pablo, lee "scratch" perry (black ark in dub), scientist, mad professor, linton kwesi johnson... you know how the list goes

bin_ez

Posted on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 04:12 am:

It just has to be any King Tubby song...Augustus, Lee Perry and the often over looked Keith Hudson are all you need in Dub

bin_ez

Posted on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 04:48 am:

Everything Torkel said made sense as well

Buskman

Posted on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 08:25 pm:

How's about some Bill Laswell/Axiom work? Anyone? Anyone? And, of course $cratch, Tubby, Da Riddim Twins (Black Uhuru stuff especially), etc., etc...

alberto the dj

Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 12:44 pm:

wicked dub
Running around : micheal rose
on key records

Serge

Posted on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 09:13 pm:

Maurizio (Moritz Von oswald)and Tikiman.Deep Dub!

Rizla

Posted on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 06:30 pm:

how about the bush chemists ?

SystemTerror

Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 12:34 pm:

Dennis Bovell's Mint Ah Music and Fidel At The Controls, Down Rhodesia and Copper Bullet by the Fatman Riddim Section

johny2bad

Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 10:06 pm:

Check out the Israel Vibration Dubs for Album 'the Same Song'!!!!

Leroy Horsemouth Wallace's Armagedion Dub was released in 2000 and it is killer!!! recorded in '78

Skatalites meets King Tubby

New Solomon Jabby Tracks!!!!!!

Gavin

Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 05:21 am:

I'm noting that nobody seemed to mention anything by Joe Gibbs, the whole African Dub series is pretty stellar.

Sytry

Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 05:32 pm:

Susely I would suggest him for listenin' to "Dub Fire" by Aswad ,a long ,slow ,dramatic , hot masterpiece of Rootz Dub.
Or I'ld suggest him for "Stoned Immaculate" of Dub Syndicate...no words!!!

dubost

Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 03:51 pm:

Any of the Lp "The Red Sea" by Augustus Pablo.
"Congoman" by The Congos.
Any song of Loud & Lone.(take a look to this group!)

Respect!

Nomad

Posted on Friday, July 26, 2002 - 09:44 pm:

all of the ON-U Sound System recordings are worth checking out for newish more modern stuff like DubSyndicate and African Headcharge although their sister label Pressure Sounds has rereleased some killer old stuff like Santic and Israel Vibration.
as for individual tracks or albums-
Creation Rebel-Starship Africa
African Headcharge-Pounding Sounds
-Songs of Praise
Lee Perry-Anthology(a good beginning)
-any Black Ark era stuff
Dub Syndicate-Echomania
-Tunes From The Missing Channel
Audio Active-Tokyo Space Cowboys(my favourite)
Keith Hudson-Michael Talbot Affair
Yabbyu and King Tubby-Jah Love Dub

JAS

Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:59 pm:

Being new to the Dub genre than most of any one here, I would say that anything by Lee Scratch Perry is a must, however my favourite is MONEY DUB.
My all time favourites [so far] has to be

Skylarking- Horace Andy
Jah Jah Give Us Dub- Scientist
Salty Dub- King Tubby
Live & Love- Dennis Brown & *Gregory Isaacs (*Reggae artist whos 'Rumours' got me in to Reggae and then later Dub)

I suggest you go out and buy "Dub gone 2 crazy" and "DUB CHILL OUT" albulms.

As the new generation of hip hop, junglist and trance musicians rediscover this most dynamic of styles, DUB CHILL OUT present 23 original masterpieces from the diabolical laboratories of reggae's dub pioneers.

I love dubs by ABA SHANTI AND JAH SHAKA... they will always be my favouritez and i will NEVER get bored of them.

;o) Please note that to enjoy any DUB, you need 2 have the speakers on maximum volume!!!!

Peace 2 all Dubsters xxx

bin_ez

Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 05:37 pm:

Jas, did you know that, seemingly the Lee Perry tracks on Dub Chill Out are not by him, but in fact King Tubby mixes?
It doesn't detract from their greatness but its something people should be aware of.

Jas

Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:41 pm:

eZ!!

Tanx 4 lettin' me know-

As you might be aware, I am simply an amateur to Dub!! ;o)
Thanks again bin_ez.

Take it Eazy,
Peace 2 all Dubsters xxx

john dillinger

Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:08 am:

my favorite dub is scientist wins the world cup, tracks #1 and #4. track 1 is dub version of johnny osbourne's 'love is universal'-track with singing is nice rootsy lover's style, but the dub is pure gangster drive by music, real hard and if you listen without trying to pay attention, scientist is doing some mad shit with the volumes of several tracks as well as wicked vocal dub snippets.
track #4 is also johnny osbourne, 'in your eyes'. dub sounds so pretty and eerie, he freaks the piano riff and solo to sound like a busted up piano in a wild west ghost town! vocal snippets are super gangster, i am surprised no one in hip hop like underground or authentic groups like gangstarr or public enemy havent sampled this yet... maybe one day.
all the otherscientist vs. albums are excellent, find'em on greensleeves,
another cool dub is sugar minott 'jamming in the street' on black roots label 12" vine, the organ and keyboards a bubble and sugar sounds tight on vocals and space echo...
respect! john dillinger

dubhead

Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 02:03 pm:

Any King Tubby´s or Scientist´s records...after this try Scorn´s "Evanescence"

Notre-Dame-Des-Fleurs

Posted on Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:55 pm:

"Invasion" King Tubby (they ARE really out there...)

"Sun is shining" rare instrumental version of this Nesta M classic featuring busting toasting by Jonnhy Lover

interruptor

Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:33 am:

i just realized that nobody so far mentioned these favourites of mine:

- G-Corp : Dubplates from the Elephant House, released on Different Drummer, late nineties.
G-Corp capture some of the authentic feel and groove from the classic dub / rocksteady / reggae era and bring it to these modern times making the best use of nowadays technology.

- Manasseh meets the Equalizer, two albums "Pre Millenium Tension" and "Shining" released on Acid Jazz
Beautiful productions from the mid-nineties. Good Balance of instrumental work and dub techniques. These albums opened my eyes for newer dub at the time..

- Scientist : "Scientific Dub", classic album from the seventies available on Clocktower Records
Scientist's Dub wizardry meets with great instrumental work here. Some classic riddims like "Baltimore", "Drum Song", .. plus the great sound of King Tubby's studio!

ape

Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 07:46 pm:

KILLER contempo dub

Ben Wa - Devil Dub

A must have!!!!

Zulu

Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 05:55 pm:

Prince Far I & the Arabs - Dub to Africa
One of the best dub creations ever!

One Love,
Zulu

Spore4321

Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:24 am:

oh man, i just love reading everybody stuff. rockin'...anyway, here are some of the things that put me in a dubwise style:

SCORN: GYRAL
AUTOMATON: DUB TERROR EXHAUST
both of these whole albums are excellent. this is old scorn when mick harris still had a bass guitar in a corner of the box. dub terror exhaust is a bill laswell thing with him and just 1 or 2 other guys and not 12...
VARIOUS: MACRO DUB INFECTION VOL.1 & VOL.2
these are both 2-cd compilations that i have to program on the stereo when i'm listening to them but the (almost all) rockers rock, esp. check out
the skull v. ice and wagonchrist on vol. 1 and the irrationa steppas (or however they spell their name) remix on vol.2
VARIOUS:COVERT OPERATIONS
VARIOUS:DUBBED OUT IN DC
these are 2 compilations put out by the thievery corporation guys. more, maybe, on the lounge side of dub but you can put either one of these on almost anywhere and set your groove...
DON LETTS:DREAD MEETS PUNK ROCKERS UPTOWN
out fairly recently, this is all stuff that letts suppossedly spun on his soundsystem in london 1975-76 and helps reconfirm that the '70's were a golden era for dub and reggae. nice blend
THE CLASH: BANKROBBER/BANKROBBER DUB & THE GUNS OF BRIXTON paul simonon knows how to play the bass almost as good as keith richards
AUGUSTUS PABLO:KING TUBBY MEETS ROCKERS UPTOWN
TAPPA ZUKIE IN DUB
SCIENTIST:DUB IN THE ROOTS TRADITION
MIKEY DREAD:DUBWISE
the mickey dread is still one of my all-time favorites, even if i've only got it on cassette.
and finally,
the bush doctor PETER TOSH,
the orb ALEX PATTERSON,
and MR. WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS
all put me in a dubwise style...

over & out
spore4321

BingyBunny

Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 02:30 am:

I'm a little new to dub but I just love it. Prince Far I's Message from the King just blew me away (Blackman Land, the title track, ), and I also have Dub to Africa (highly recommended) and, of course, Under Heavy Manners; I never tire of Scientist (Rids the World; Heavyweight Dub Champion; Meets the Space Invaders...love those Roots Radics; Dub in the Roots Tradition); Glen Brown/King Tubby's Termination Dub is very worthwhile; the Mango Reggae Greats Lee Perry compilation is a great place to start (love Jah Lion's Wisdom!); The Upsetters Super Ape; The Congos; of course, King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown and all the other amazing Augustus Pablo stuff.

I know this is all heavy on the roots -- and probably old hat to many on this board -- but I am working my way into the newer stuff, through Dub Syndicate (Pounding System is great, but I think Stoned Immaculate is even better)and I'm on the lookout for more (Alpha & Omega, etc.).

Dub is for music now what blues was for rock in the 70's. To me it's like a universal language.

Thanks for listening!

bin_ez

Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 07:51 am:

The roots are the best!

BBMatic

Posted on Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 02:52 am:

yes my youths

if any of you have broadband and are so inclined i will e-mail you an mp3 of ijahman levi's "I'm a Levi" completely unreleased jamaican dubplate music - 3 cuts so its quite long and therefore a big file. but a truly legendary dubplate well woth checking. i also got more of that kind of thing on mp3, shitloads of rare reaggae music w/dubs, we can try a ting still. if that interests you e-mail me: burnlamche@mac.com and ask me for the ijahman dubplate... or other dubs..

respect to one and all on this forum, but forgive me for sayin.... all these 'dub roots' and 'space dub' albums [etc etc] that people are namechecking, well, they're just compilations mainly, from tunes that were usually originally released as pre's on 7" often in very small numbers & with a harder mix - then if a tune went down well they would usually water the mix down somewhat and then release it on some english or US 12" mix. 7"s are obviously harder to find but the heaviest mixes of all were reserved for dub plates, acetates made exclusively for sound systems that never saw general release. believe me when i tell you - there ain't one album ever been released, that actually contains real jamaican dubplate music - e-mail me for this ijahman tune and you'll see what i mean...
guidance. mind you, there were exponents of the highest order working from the UK and USA too - a couple of people mentioned aswad - the best live reggae band ever to emerge from the uk but you should hunt down their more obscure tunes like 'Natural Progression' or 'Children of The Rainbow'. Seriously heavy music.

Lastly: to hear some real dubplate music, and also read more information about dubplate music in general visit my friend russell bell-browns most excellent webpage at:
http://www.btinternet.com/~russdbsl/1dubplate.html

there are two pages of mp3 clips well worth a check - there is one especially amazing dubplate on there with which i have an obscure connection: 'Guide Us Jah" - Johnny Clarke -- awesome music

on the same page, also look out for 'Sinners Repent' - another unreleased johnny clarke tune that simply blows anything else away.

e-mail russell, tell him how good his page is. i friggin' love it. music like that man...

guidance. b.

BBmatic

Posted on Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 02:59 am:

i'll also big up the people who mentioned 'starship africa' - creation rebel. an original work by a truly innovative band.

but come on guys -- all these cd compilations, while welcome, are just scratchin' the surface here

BBmatic

Posted on Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:59 am:

also, check:
http://theboomboomroom.dyndns.org/theboomboomroom
you will often hear some good dub from a variety of djs

and also check www.dublab.com - the 'dubstream' is well worth a check...

DubinMD

Posted on Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 11:18 pm:

The best collection of dubs I'v heard are on this cd called Dub Reggae Essentials.

DR PHATGUT

Posted on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 02:32 am:

check out sugar minnot`s GHETTOLOGY IN DUB
album superb

http://aliendread.channeloneuk.com

C LOMAS

Posted on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 06:10 pm:

Sly & Robbie- Skull & Crossbones
Prince Far-I & the Arabs-Cry Tuff Dub Encounter3
LKJ IN DUB # 1
SINGERS & Players all!

Ben Walters

Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 04:23 pm:

Some Dub albums that have recently joined my collection, and definitly shine brightly!
Dennis Bovell - I Wah Dub - on LKJ records.
Wackies - African Roots act 2 - Dubs from New York based studio, checkout basicchannel.com for more info.
Mikey Dread - Beyond World War 3 - Pounding stuff!

gaston

Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 10:05 pm:

the tassilli players-wonderful word of weed in dub*atlas of world dub

pole-3

horace andy-in the light dub

black uhuru-guess who`s comming to dinne

***one love***

Spore4321

Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 04:52 pm:

Well, I still think compilations are the best way to cast one's net broadly and economically, especially for more obscure labels and artists. But the bottom line should be that you are listening to music and hopefully good music no matter the source. As i build my collection of dub, many of my first exposures to artists come from compilations and then i good out and buy the album that the track is taken from. while not a perfect methodology, the thrill of discovery this way has proved very rewarding for me...
Here are a few cd's (i don't own a turntable anymore, so compact discs are it for me and luckily there is a lot of great dub on cd) that i've gotten recently:

SUB DUB: dANCEHALL MALFUNCTION. absolutely excellent as a complete album! I first heard of them on the AXIOM DUB compilation.

JAH THOMAS AND THE ROOTS RADICS: KING TUBBY'S HIDDEN TREASURE. I don't know when this was recorded but it is good.

AUDIO ACTIVE: THE CHOCO REMIXES (or something like that; it's got a green cover). This is from On-U-Sound which is a label that i'm getting more and more into...

over & out from NYC
SPORE4321

nil_shok

Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 05:24 pm:

i gotta say, i like modern dub, even the stuff that is well off from roots dub. twilight circus dub sound system is amazingly roots sounding for a white guy from denmark. but i love those pole records with the crackly synthetic dub. check out pole's "3" if you want to hear how dub can be done without sounding like a '70s cop out and still work.

i'm also a fan of recent scratch perry, with the drum programming and the fucked radio samples. it doesn't sound like scratch is trying to make a modern record, just getting weirder--and his voice gets better with age.

what's new?

Selectah Harmony of the Roadblock Sound System

Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 08:15 pm:

To He, the Emperor Haile Selassie, Jah Rastafar I, of the land of 13 months of summer.

For the love of the melody and the extremely oversized maternal gently distorting bassbins.

I&I praise the dubs not for the weak at heart.
ooh you meeeaann!

Check these puppies: Disciples, rootsman, mennasseh, bush chemists, jah warrior, jah free, fish and goat the the controls, vibronics, hydroponics, dub organiser, power steppers, iration steppas and improvisators dub.

Of classic crate; jah shaka, dr alimantado, glen brown, dillinger and scientist have not been mentioned too often on this page.

peace, bass and harmony

Love,
Selectah Harmony

email me for the benevolent dub extravaganza, yes-I

Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 12:25 am:

Scientist Rids The World Of The Evil Curse Of Vampires

excellent album, one of my all time favorite

contains several dub tracks of michael prophet who's voice is simply amazing
and a dub of firehouse rock (wailing souls)

aleph

Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 11:57 pm:

have you heard the prince fari "dub encounter" chap
1,2,3 ? try these records and good travel in the ethiopian bush!

djé-irie

Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 06:08 pm:

ites everybody,

I think one of the most unforgetable dub has been forgoten. I'm thinking about the "kunta kinte" playing by shaka.
An original dub from the creole beware version on a hard to find 12" aquizim kunta kinte(ariwa)
You can find other versions on mad prof LP. inspirationnal sound of mad p. & beyond the realm of dub dub me crazy part 2.
So i'm searching the original 12" by aquizim...don't miss me if you find one or two!
An other wicked dub 10" mix of meditation rock by aba shanti.

bless all the people who plays loud...dubbing is a must (pablo moses killer)

Djé

Rootzilla

Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 04:10 pm:

Ahh...

De trail has grown cold already, and a lot of greatness has been introduced but I'll just post one track that never seems to be mentioned:

Bob Marley: One Dub

Yes I, the one and only Robert Nesta, often overlooked by dubheads and people who are 'serious' fans of the 'real' Jamaican music... A likkle too popular, a likkle not cool enough? Anyway, this is a Jamaican b-side of 'One Drop', available on the Songs of Freedom box, and the way the Barret Brothers just hijack that track... I wonder who mixed it? And if there are more dubs of Bob's songs?

Oh, BTW, someone mentioned that 'Pick a Dub' would be mixed by Tubby but I believe it was Keith Hudson himself?

Rootz

Despiracy

Posted on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 07:36 pm:

Definite Dub choices are:

King Tubby - Fittest of them all
Scentist - Dub Livity
King Tubby - Zion Gate Dub
King Tubby & Soul Syndicate - East Avenue Skank
Scientist - African Daughter Dub

There you have five beautiful Dubs from the two Masters; King Tubby and Scientist.

One Love,
Despiracy

Bu$h=Ambu$h

Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 06:36 am:

Jah Shaka & Twinkle Bros- Jah Shall Reign Dubwise;
Sly & Robbie feat. Junior Delgado- Jailbreak;
Sly & Robbie feat. The Viceroys- Heart Made Of Dub;
Steel Pulse- Revolution Dub;

Helix Resonator

Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 11:01 am:

Some of my favorites also include oldies like Dr. Amimantado's Best Dressed Chicken in Town;(w/Horace Andy) Poison Flour
the well mentioned Scientist Rids the world of the evil curse of the vampires and all the greensleeves series with the Roots Radics, All of Augustus Pablo's work, anything on blood & fire, On-u-sound goodies like Creation Rebel, African Headcharge, Dub Syndicate, New Age Steppers, LSP & the upsetters'Roast Fish & cornbread; Bird in Hand, ANything King Tubby had to do with, Glen Brown, The Revolutionaries, The Aggrovators, etc. etc...but...
I think if someone truely appreciates dub and understands its rich history then they should embrace the modern evolution of this music and see the connections between things like dub(in all forms), experimental electronic music/idm, jungle, d&B/jungle, nu-jazz, abstract hip-hop, noise and even grind/crust punk. Why alienate ourselves and put up more walls between things that essentially stem from the same subculture of revolutionary and artistic roots? Dub has always been about moving foward, pushing boundaries, and dissolving the conventions that keep people from freeing their creative energies. Dub was like Jamaican dadaism when it emerged, leaping out into cerebral realms that may have initially appeared nonsensical to many of the more conservative musicians, producers, and listeners at the time. Then they began to realize that Dub was MODERN music with almost esoteric qualities worth cherishing and supporting. Of course the classics are just that: straight WELL WICKED CLASSICS!! And I even attempt to lay down the more rootsy dub vibe in my productions from time to time. And don't get me wrong, I really dig plenty of artists who can emulate the retro-dub stylee so damn well(e.g. bands like Dry&Heavy, Twilight Circus, nuff respect). But do you think King Tubby would want us to just continue trying to mimic what he and his collegues already mastered, or do you think he would want us to take those golden influences, combine that with influences from a variety of other artistic, musical and political leanings and make music that reflects the era we happen to be in? Yuh know, music from 2003!! Future Dubwise a fi rule, SEEN!! In the now, artists like Pole are about as DUB as it gets ya'll! Soo much dub, with loads of soul! The Tubbs would be not only proud of these kinds of innovations, he would probably be right along side 'em if not leading the way! So give 'em a good hard listen cause that's where dub is today. Plenty of artists--Rhythm and Sound, Monolake, Ben Wa, Dubloner, Acroyear, Polycubist, SystemWide(and all my homies at BSI records!! what's up Ezra!), Alter Echo/Sound Secretion, Kruder and Dorfmeister, Select Cuts releases, Smith and Mighty still rockin', Peace Orch., Theivery Corp., Groove Corp., Little Tempo, Audio Active, Kuzufumi Kodama etc., etc., etc. Bottom line is, with dub there should be no limits; use real instruments, use synthesizers, use sequencers, use computers, use top-of-the-line gear, use ratty old junk for gear, circuit bend old toys, thrash around in your house banging on the floors, walls, furniture, doors & dishes and record that then cut up the various noises and sequence them into dub riddims, run your mixes out of an old ghetto-blaster into an empty dumpster with a mic inside to rerecord and use as some real "trashy" reverb, i don't know, use whatever's available and combine whatever elements that sound interesting together. Dub is about being resourceful not discrediting it if you don't have a fisher-reverb space X-pander or a 30 yr old tape echo and a studio full of anolog gear on hand.
peace and unity!!
Jacob I, aka Caper1, aka Miosotis, aka Lt. Lunatico from the Helix Hub currently in Ellensburg WA, soon to be back in Mexico for a stint and then set up again in Japan.
ps-this is the best site I've ever visited about dub(props to the interrupter and your music too), I'll surely be in and out as long as it's around!!

pss--Matt Shuter and anyone else interested in artists similar to pole (with perhaps less if any dub leanings but essential nonetheless) should check out my friends from Japan who work with me from time to time on my dub projects(Bersatu, now Helix Resonator). Their names are Aoki Takamasa(Progressive Form label) and Takagi Masakatsu(DaisyWorld Discs, Cutting Edge, Carpark, etc.) each with their own respective solo projects, however in the past they were the great audio visual team known as Silicom(also on Progressive Form). For more experimental electronic music check out somafm.com out of SanFran and artists like Venetian Snares, Jake Mandell, Ziq, Kinder Atoms, Obelus, Karlheinz Stockhausen(the father), John Cage and the more obvious ones like Autechre, Squarepusher, Aphex Twin, Scanner, Plasticman, Plaid, Boards of Canada, etc...

rascal

Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 03:29 pm:

Check out on-u sound compilations

raf

Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 07:51 pm:

well I found out lots of dub lovers don't know about a strongly growing dub scene in and around the psytrance community. Acts like Shpongle, Younger Brother, Doof etc are making great dub with a highly psychedelic touch.

check out the new album

ott - "blumencraft" - really amazing stuff

or the "hallucinogen in dub" album

really blows my mind

SAM HARRIS

Posted on Friday, July 11, 2003 - 12:18 am:

THERE ARE TWO ALBUMS THAT I RECOMMEND.FIRSTLY THE AMAZING SCIENTIST WITH HEAVY WEIGHT DUB CHAMPION AN ABSOLUTE CLASSIC WITH GREAT BASS PLAYING FROM FLABBA HOLT.SECONDLY MAD PROFFESER EVOLUTION OF DUB,HEAVY,HEAVY BASS.SEE U ALL AT THE BEAUTIFUL DAYS FEST IN DEVON,LEE SCRATCH+MAD PROF SHOULD SHAKE THE EARTH.LOVE TO YOU ALL, SAM HARRIS.

André Crasnojan

Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 07:20 pm:

As I like only 70´s Dub, I recommend tracks like King Tubby´s "Musical Dub", "A Mek Rhythm Run Dub" (with Dennis Brown), "Sunny Dub". If you like, try dub tracks with DJ´s, like Dillinger´s "Truth and Right", "Striker See Da Dub Ya", "Three Piece Suit And Thing", and Trinity´s "Tradition", "Fire Down A Town", "Natty Dread A No Bandooloo", "Z 90", as few examples, because there are a infinity of very good DJ´s toasting on dub tracks. Another suggestion is an CD called "Niney The Observer Presents King Tubby in Dub: Bring The Dub Come". This disc, as the great Big Youth would say, "is out of this world!".

Go deh, an' enjoy dat!

tmbass

Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 02:04 pm:

Lee Perry & The Full Experiences "Disco Devil"
one of my whole life favorites!

sir hutch

Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 02:35 am:

check culture, 'production something' album for treasure island dubs with tight riddims

Scoop 7

Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 04:55 am:

Helix Resonator is an insane dub master. Check it out or else! That is, if you can get your sticky little dub hands on it. Lt. Lunatico has gone beyond the threshold of dub in the present and has entered the realm of futuristic dubcore. If one is lucky enough to see his live presentation of Dancefloor Ventilation, one can reach a state of total dubalization. It is "well wicked."

Kind vibes,
MariahFaith aka Scoop 7

Mars Recordings

Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 03:50 am:

My first ever purchased dub LP and still a favorite! SCIENTIST "Rids the World of the Evil Vampires"

Tim

MDub

Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 10:59 pm:

I saw Twilight Circus Dub Sound System mentioned earlier and I second that recomendation. Check out the albums Dub Plates Vol. 2 & 3. Any of the albums in Mad Professors Black Liberation Dubs series are great as well.

Daniel- This list is a bit overwhelming, but there have been many great selections. My suggestion is to check out one of those blood and fire comps and then check out albums by the artists you like.

dj esp

Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 05:36 am:

peace and respects .. in honor of the sounds i am djing an all night dub and roots night entitled "Ital Corner" in costa mesa california on TUEsday october 28th at 9 pm. 21 and over and no cover charge. if anyone can attend that would be it. i am inspired by the writings from this page.. Jah Bless.

info line for this spot is 714 652-1483

Dub1

Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 12:36 am:

King Tubby meets Rockers Uptown!!!!

druitre

Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 03:05 am:

black uhuru - the dub factor... the dubs are by paul 'groucho' smykle, haven't found too many other dubs by him, just this one island compilation 'sly & robbie, 'a dub experience'. has his own style, i like it a lot.

mad professor meets jah shaka at ariwa sounds, especially shaka's side is amazingly essential (and classically favourite)

and maybe it's an idea to compile a top-100 or something out of the messages in this list? who is dub-master of all times by popular consent?

dickdutch

Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 10:19 am:

check a track called "abraham" by william the conqueror.Its on "a dubbers guide" on Dubhead records.If theres a 7",10",or12" out i need to find it sharpish...its proper gut wrenching steppers...
the only other time i've seen the name is on the respect list on the aba shanti album"Wrath of Jah"Is there more from this crew???
respect for a wicked site....
DICK DUTCH(DUBSOMANIC SOUND SYSTEM Leicester)

ruin72

Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 01:43 pm:

if i had to choose one dub itz:
king tubby's in fine style
released for example on blood&fire
YES!!

L&T

Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 02:26 am:

Top three all time dub albums according to T & L... still on Glen Canyon, are: Augustus Pablo, Ital Dub; Mad Professor, Dub me crazy Pt 1; Scientist V. Prince Jammy, Big Showdown.

Cheers,
L&T

L&T

Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 03:31 am:

NEWS FLASH!!! WE WERE ON CRACK!....
We forgot about the all-time BEST-Top rated Dub album ever: KING TUBBY DUB JACKPOT!!!!!!

L&T

btw are we the only people posting on this site?

dries

Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 08:21 pm:

not augustus pablo, i don't like his sound
lee scratch perry from the black ark era is very psychedelic
prince jammy
scientist
king tubby, though sometimes i get tired of hearing bunny lee's productions again and again
joe gibbs and errol thompson 'no bones for the dogs' CD is very good
aswad's 'a new chapter in dub' is magnificent
mad professor sounds a bit too clean sometimes, i prefer seventies dub, or early eighties
One of the coolest tracks Tubby's ever did is 'Great Stone' the dub to Prince Allah's 'Stone'
African Headcharge
Jamaican Super Dub - Wackie's
Vital Dub - Well Charged (AKA The Revolutionaries)

dries

Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 08:24 pm:

also check out Mikey Dread's 'Rockers Vibration' (not strictly dub but very nice ganja smoking music), Black Uhuru's 'Guess Who's Coming To Dinner' (some of the best rythms ever), the reissue of Serge Gainsbourg & The Revolutionaries 'Aux Armes Etc' comes with a magnificent dub counterpart.

thadevious1

Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 09:42 pm:

I would like to add something to this list...

Leo Graham & The Upsetters-Flashing Echo

The Observers-One Trainload of Dub

Lee Perry-I am a Madman

-Justin-

stevie the dub master!

Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 01:13 am:

For me, the best dub ever has got to be Jah Shaka dub rendition of Swan Lake. That was way back in the early eighties and I am still hoping that one day I will hear it again.

--Steve

Stevie the dub master

Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 03:43 am:

How about the unforgetable "UMOJA" dub album by Dennis Brown and the Revolutionaries. Tracks included the dub of Junior Delgado's Famine (truely wicked).

Then, there was "Prophecy" by the late great Sir Coxone and singer Fabian.

Also, I could go on but will stop for now at "King of the dub rock" and the Fred Locks and Creation steppers dub of Homeward Bound.

Finally, anything by Fred Locks and Creation Steppers: Africa, Homeward Bound, King Nebuccadnezar, Love and only love etc.

--Steve.

jeffsmith

Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 10:50 am:

where can i find hard to find dub albums such as harry mudie meets king tubby in dub conference vol. 1 or other hard to find albums

SuperBaked

Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 09:42 am:

Aloha y'all! First time posting here but longtime dub fan. My reccommendations for some sick dubs for noobs:

"Dub Side of the Moon" - If they're old school & like Pink Floyd, here's a good intro to dub. Awesome mix of the old & new.

"Bill Laswell's Ambient Translations of Bob Marley." Everyone loves Bob; what could be better then Bob in spacey dub? Had a couple of classmates that don't even listen to dub want a copy of this one after hearing me play it.

"Scientist rids the world of the plague of the curse of the vampires" (or something like that). Stoniest way to cruise around town in Grand Theft Auto III listening to KJAH.

Anyone mention the Aggrovators? And though its not really dub, check out the bad ass roots from the Gladiators & the Chantrells 1977-1979 album. They just don't make reggae (& dub) like they used to... sigh...

!SuperBaked!

Zulu-Ite

Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 02:34 pm:

Greetings,
i would like to recommend a few tracks that i really like,hopefully someone will enjoy these too:
Ta Teasha Love - Oh Jah Come Now (3rd piece)
Aba Shanti I - Free The Nation(Cut From The LP)
Ken Boothe - I And I And I Dub
Jah Shaka/Ras Imru - Warrior Dub
Iration Steppas - Wa Dem ago Do When Di Right Time Come(Dub)
Tena Stelin - Subliminal Messages Dub
Earthquake - The Storm
Jonah Dan - Khanna
Desi Roots - Warning Dub
Dhaima - Ina Jah Children Dub
and finally my all time favourite
Fabian Mirranda - Prophecy Dub
Respects Reggae Family

Fernando

Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 05:50 pm:

Dub fever, Tubbys at the control, King Tubby it´s great, I am from Brazil and i would love to know more about rastamen´s world nowadays because i want to keep on passing jah message so please rastas contact me ...

falves86@terra.com.br

Fernando_\l/_ Rasta it´s life style love and peace let Kalli live

the dub shack

Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 05:14 pm:

greetings from the dub shack - essential dub must include:

King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
Pick A Dub - Keith Hudson
Harry Mudie meets King Tubbys in Dub Conference - all 3 vols
African Dub Almighty (Joe Gibbs) - Chapters 1,2,3 & 4
Augustus Pablo in Fine style (Pressure Sounds)
King Tubby's Special 1973-1976
King Tubby presents The Roots of Dub/Dub From The Roots
Niney - present dub
Yabby U - Prophecy of Dub
Morwell Unlimited meets King Tubby
+ Blood & Fire King Tubby albums

compilations - Dub Chill Out, Dub sessions, both Trojan dub box sets

also check out Pole.

the dub shack

marauder

Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 10:32 pm:

Before I knew Lee Perry, Mad Professor and stuff I got into dub music via The Clash, believe or not. Armagideon Time, Ghetto Defendant or Bankrobber were good ports of entry for a whitey punk like me. I own a great deal of dub records now. These days I'm much into The Dub Factor by Black Uhuru

DubInTheCity

Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 09:31 am:

Greetings One & All

Well have read the above statements and agree with most of you. The likes of King Tubby,Lee Perry. Sly & Robbie, the best.
I also like what is happening in Europe now,
The Bush Chemists
Tena Stelin
Alpha & Omega
Barry Isaacs
Centry
To name a few.
For anyone new to Dub, try one of the samplers,
A New Breed Of Dub
Dub Out West
Dubhead Vol 1/2/3/4

Hey Zulu-Ite, How you Doing. Glen

Ghede

Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 05:35 pm:

Two words.....Dub Syndicate.

DubInTheCity

Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 10:57 pm:

King Shiloh a Holland reggae dub sound system is kicking now. Check out there king_shiloh_presents-lyrical_benjie_(ft_dezzi_d)-(ep)-2003-gmg
excellent example of modern day dub!!
Glen

ricardo

Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 04:24 am:

i cant believe i havent seen UB40 "Present Arms in Dub" mentioned ... maybe not the best dub candy ever ....but certainly the most influential to me ...... i heard this as a kiddie and went on to enjoy the likes of pablo, tubby, perry ...the usual suspects etc ... and on to the likes of dry and heavy .... dub is timeless ....and if done digitally ...then the more organic and analog sounding the better .. its in everyone from lemon jelly to guitar peeps who like to twiddle knobs ... love n peas

ricardo

Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 04:36 am:

king tubby meets the rockers is my desert island dub tho .....*essential*

JkP Free Stylii

Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 02:38 pm:

Hi all,

Great French Dub for you all : High Tone (http://www.hightone.org/) and Improvisators Dub (improvisatorsdub), best of the moment in French scene for me !

And one rare extra : Man From Wareika Dub by Rico Rodriguez (check it)(RicoD1977Warrika RicoD1977Man.htm)

kenny

Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 05:33 pm:

eesy, anyone of the king -tubby. or 'i mas gan dub', or 'rema dub' of the observer, or 'dubin' sandra' scratch, an' the whole 'garveys ghost'

Bruce Hollihan

Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 08:55 pm:

Although I can't argue with any of the above choices, I would like to suggest the Gregory Isaacs cuts ("Public Eyes", "Leggo Beast", "Nigger", "Slum", "Tam Tam", & "Leaving") from the Trojan Dub Box Set, Volume I.

They are very well done, and derived from good material as well.

If I had to introduce dub quickly to someone, I would use those cuts.

Mrs_Potter

Posted on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 01:57 pm:

Leftfield got me into dub when they played the essential mix on radio 1 back in 1994, a small part of the mix is a mighty fine dub mix which i still have on tape but well worn, i managed to track down some of the tracks but would love to get the rest to recreate that mix in its full crystal clear glory. Here is the track listing of that mix:
Mike Dread - "Machine Codes" (Kosmik Konundrums)
Moody Boys - "Fight Back" (Guerilla)
Mezzontinto EP - "Dub Experience" (St Germain En Layf)
The Disciples - "Prowling Lion" (Mix unknown)(Boom Shaka Lacka)
Alpah & Omega - "Jah Is Calling" (A&O)
After A&O it blended into dance music at which point i press rewind

Ben

Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 10:06 am:

"Although I can't argue with any of the above choices, I would like to suggest the Gregory Isaacs cuts ("Public Eyes", "Leggo Beast", "Nigger", "Slum", "Tam Tam", & "Leaving") from the Trojan Dub Box Set, Volume I."

These titles sound familliar from the G. Isaac's dub album 'Slum In dub', was available from Trojan.

Ben

Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 10:13 am:

Recently acquired....
Jah Rej (Various)- Messenges from the 7TH Sense, dub and vocal album, very good.
Restless Mashaits - Kingston Sessions. Instrumental & Dub.
Plus 2 wicked 12's from Dubkasm on Sufferah's Choice records, heavy heavy Aba Shanti style tunes!

paulo

Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 02:06 pm:

All this new dub is fucking shit (computerized garbage)

ricardo

Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 12:24 am:

it sometimes amazes me how little digital technology is stretched and wrung out to dub .... as long as the methods used (be it digital or analogue...or both) can reach those pleasure centres in the brain ....

mad professor's "Kathmandu", the Orb "Towers of Dub" are examples i know of maybe fusing the two and possibly computerized ...but hardly garbage imo ...and plenty of that ilk ....

if anything is fucking shit ...its modern american ska .... totally spit souring

Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 02:14 am:

Scratch's dub mix of ark of the covenant

+ his dub mixes on the trojan compilation "open the gate"

dangerous dub - tubby

glen brown - termination dub

tubby's hidden treasure is patchy but occasionally sublime

re: the computer stuff. When you hear jah shaka's sound or aba shanti's sound play that stuff - it just sounds heavy and dubby - you can't hear how lame the cheap keyboards sound... it just rocks the house and makes your insides vibrate :P

p.s. big shout to ariwa/MP crew - (just did a recording there - great guys)

tubbyrule

Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 01:16 pm:

Scientist Rids the world..., or wins the world cup- its all classic

Peter M

Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 01:55 am:

yes scientist + radics dubs of those Johnny Osborne tunes are killa!

check out the rough guide (easily the most serious coverage of the whole of reggae) to reggae chapeter on dub... Tubby, Gibbs, Perry Pablo, Brown, Scientist if u go with their top picks u cant go wrong...even if u dont agree with everything that Barrow says the essential picks are pretty unquestionable

dubudance

Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 03:47 am:

one of the bst cd;s - SCIENTIST WINS THE WORLD CUP!!!

My favorite dubs would have to go to HUGH MUNDELL-africa must be free-mundell- and black mans foundation

OFcour KING TUBBY wiht the #1 sounds...any king tubby album is good

AUGUSTUS PABLO , jophnny osbourne.,israel vibration, prince jammy, and many more... i thank all these people for creating such great music...

b_easy

Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 04:35 am:

the songs that really got me into dub were:
marcus - tubby
salty dub - tubby
righteous people dub - bunny lee and the aggrovators

and of course, anything by tubby is good...

ricardo

Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 03:19 am:

the skatalites "african dub" .... top dub for a first date that ..... killer!

Mellowman

Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 01:29 pm:

Hi..
I would just say that my best dub album is
Lee "scratch" Perry & Mad Proffesor's DUB TAKES VOODOO OUT OF REGGAE !!!
Killer album!!

superb1

Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 10:13 pm:

Someone recomended Dr. ALimatado or whatever his name was...Sure the background i G.R.E.A.T but to hear him toast makes me (and hopefully som other people sick =) )

So try this one if you liked the background but not the "singer"...

Sly & Robbie - Dreams Of Dub

Also try these:

1. Sly & Robbie - Righteous Dub
2. Long beach dub allstars - Astro Dub (i don't like these guys normally, but this song is great)
3. Nazarenes (This isn't really dub, it's a reggae-band from sweden, origin from (eritrea?)
However it's beautiful....great production, fantastic song.

ricardo

Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 05:30 am:

"creation dub" from mad professor's "inspirational sounds of.."

possibly the finest dub tune ever ... reminds me of an aswad bassline .... then turns your brain inside out .... serious dub tune imo

Mellowman

Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2004 - 04:44 pm:

This is for SUPERBL:
Man, how can you say that Dr. Alimantado sucks?
It's a classic dub album and I think that everybody
should hear it.. That album is in top 50 best dubreggae albums ever so.. Don't shit on it.
There are many better albums but still.
Sly & Robbie are cool but nothing new..

If you want to hear something realy beautifull try Radioaxiom a dub transmission from Bill Laswell & Jah Wobble if u didn't hear it allready.
Or maybe Tubby meets Skatalites - Heroes of reggae in dub.
Or the Arabs - Crytuff dub encounter..

Italsem

Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 11:05 am:

Hi,

As a starter i would begin with a classic dub: something like: Burning spear - Garvey`s ghost
For the main course: Lee scratch Perry and Prince Jammy - Dub the old fashioned way.
And as a dessert : Scientist - Rids the world of the evil curse of the vampires..
I bet the person would be hooked on the recepies in my Dub kitchen;)

Dubdaze

Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 07:16 am:

Lee Perry - Space Dub

...love this one

I want to add The Rockers Uptown also, even if its been said before, simply a classic for me!

JohnAsk

Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 08:06 pm:

Right now my favorite single is The Butch Cassidy Sound System b- side "Take me to your Leader". I tell everyone starting to listen to dub to listen to " King Tubby's Meets Rockers Uptown" from start to finish. If the're not hooked after listening; they just won't get the vibe.

Sanhadji

Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 06:12 pm:

Bless,

I won't mention any tracks, but these artist are a must for the beginner:

Lee Scratch Perry
King Tubby
Scientist
Mad Professor

Respects,

Sanhadji

blurrededges

Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 03:55 am:

well this thread is pretty long already but i'm not sure if anyone has mentioned HIGH TONE.
i'v turned a few people onto dub by lending them some high tone cds.

Dubb Triffidd

Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 01:26 am:

Some time last year, some guy called Ricardo posted above that he thought that "Creation Dub" by Mad Professor was the best dub ever made. While that opinion reveals a lack of listening experience, it's worth pointing out that "Creation Dub" is actually Jah Shaka's work, mixed by Mad Professor (like most of Jah Shaka's 80s stuff).

Dr Dub

Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 12:30 pm:

Listen to anyhting that has to do with Adrian Sherwood (ON-U Sound).

Crucial to start with is a band called CREATION REBEL (albums: dub from creation, rebel vibrations). Mid 70s Lee Perry productions are essential too. Then there is (of course) the likes of King Tubby an all... Nuff stuff to get into:-))) Love & respect >> dr dub

McPullish

Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 10:15 am:

King tubby's Meets rockers Uptown
Scientist- Heavyweight Dub Champion
LSP-any Black Ark dub
Mad Professor- dub Me Crazy 1&2
Jah Shaka- Commandments of Dub pt. 3
Bullwackie's allstars- African Roots parts 1&2
Disciples- Prowling lion
Twilight Circus- Bin Shaker Dub, volcanic Dub
A&O, stuff on BSI, Select Cuts, Burial Sound, Adrian Sherwood,Bill Laswell, orb, Pole,etc.

really there are many hrs of tunes

danny

Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 05:27 am:

Just go and check the best re-issues of 2005 by the classic label DEB Music .You can see them and listen to them exclusively at www.baddamusic.com .
Badda than the rest !!!!

tony the lion

Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 05:42 am:

Yes Danny boy !!!!
You know quality ...Everything by Deb is a true classic!!!!If you are into Reggae and Dub and you don`t have all the DEB Lps & 12s you deserve to get the Reggae Police knocking at your door!!!This new label Badda Music has done an extraordinary job re-issuing them again since they were put out in the 70s.The royalty of Reggae is involved man!!!!They have a wicked website as well!!!
Tony the lion

interruptor

Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 09:02 am:

^^^^^^
hahaha, very funny. writing two posts under two different names. danny and tony the lion are one and the same!

it just doesn't help your credibility much if it's so obvious that you are trying to fool us. your ip address is being logged with each message..

interruptor

Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 09:45 am:

the site is nice though

good music but not necessariliy dub.
i liked the lovers rock from 16 17 18

monodread

Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 05:35 am:

yo people,
greetings from Sarajevo...
...humm...yes we know 'batadub inna this area!!!

Me favourite...
...there are so many of them, but let's say...

Kaly Live Dub- Hyphonic
Hybrid sound system- Synchrone
High Tone- Opus Incertum
Aizell- Concerning Monospaces
Fumuj- Monstrueuse Normalite
Uzinadub
Zenzile- Totem & Meets Jamika

...and after all a maximum respect to the whole Dub scene in France, 'cause they did an enormous work of da reinventing the Dub it self.
You must check it if ya didn't yet!!!!!

Big up to all of ya!!!!

savuvi crew 93,1 mHz

flyingflee

Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 06:57 am:

Sorry all it's gotta be new zealand's undiscovered greatest:

salmonella dub
rhombus
the black seeds

N0bby

Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 09:45 pm:

All of the above and one which you should try
(early 90's) "guerilla in dub" stuff like drum club and spooky...dubbed to the max...truly the spirit of dubbbbbb

dubvizier

Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 05:07 am:

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17pdr

Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 01:34 am:

For the Beginner anything by Augustus Pablo and / or King Tubby. But a must is

1) King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown (Pablo)

2) Cool Shade Dub / Ras Menilik Congo / Roots Dub (Pablo / Rockers All Stars)

and then from Gregory Isaacs

3) Tam Tam

17pdr

Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 01:02 am:

...also for the beginner, check out

'Far East'/'Philip's Showcase'/'East Man Sound'/'Levi Dub' (Augustus Pablo/Pablo Allstars/Rockers Allstars) and any other version of this base line you can set ears to !

Jonathan

Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 12:27 pm:

Haven't read the whole thread here but

Scientist Rids the world of the curse of the evil vampires

is a favourite and well popular due to GTA3.

Respect GTA3 - the originator.

Jonathan

Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 12:30 pm:

"Laughing vampires Dance... feel the voodoo curse."

...had to.

django

Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 02:53 pm:

I have added a 'dub jukebox' to my site to introduce people to dub. It includes 10 streaming dub tracks by Lee Perry, Scientist, Tubby ...

http://www.flashbynight.com/dubbox/

Check it out and tell me what you think.

interruptor

Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 03:45 pm:

good idea django!
..except that tubby was a non-smoker. so if one out of the two most influencial dub artists does not smoke weed can you really say dub is music "from herb lovers for herb lovers"? any additional thoughts regarding ganja to this page please..

da g

Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 12:40 pm:

I would definately suggest the following:

"Picka Dub" - Keith Hudson
"Slum in Dub" - Gregory Isaacs dub lp mixed by jammy
"Return of the Super Ape" - Lee Perry

da g

Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 12:43 pm:

Opps!!! Make that a BIG opps!!!
I forgot to mention to buy anything and I mean anything on the Wackies label straight out of NYC for the freashest yet roughest take on reggae outside Jamaica. Start with "Creation Dub" lp and then go for the "Jamaica Super Dub" set both are worth their weight in gold!

django

Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 02:29 pm:

Point taken, Interruptor, some people like their coffee black, some with milk.

Check back on my site in a couple of weeks, I plan to have a 'roots reggae' version of the dub jukebox up.

GloBal PurPoSe

Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 01:56 am:

Hi , check OKU ONUORA'S DUBS, also old DENNIS BOVELL (BLACK BEARD)wicked versions , Also some of PABLO GAD'S ols stuff. DRY and HEAVY from Japan are good BUT CULTIVATOR from Tokyo is very good too ,also RUVE BYTES,DRUWEED,and ......SOULFIRE !!!!!!!!!try LOWER GROUNDZ from france , U might be astonished!!!!!
SCRATCH the DUB ORGANIZER,LEE PERRY
LITTLE FLUTE CHANT,BRAD OSBORNE
99 per cent of PRINCE FAR I productions!!!!
AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE LIVE ALBUM IS TUFF TUFF TUFF (respect BONGO IYABINGHI NOAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!)
now sorry it s late i m a bit confused and hard to think so i go sleep........
NAMASTE

E.B.

Posted on Friday, October 07, 2005 - 05:49 am:

Try King Shiloh Soundsystim... Dub fi real

GloBal PurPoSe

Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 06:06 pm:

OOOOOOOOOOPs sorry i forgot to mention :
UNCONQUERRED PEOPLE DUB and SAME SONG DUB by ISRAEL VIBRATION a MUST EAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
C U

williamcompanyman

Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 05:15 pm:

Zion Gate Dug - Tubby
David, Solomon, Moses - Rod Taylor
Ark of the Covenant - Congos
JU-187 - Primal Scream

dubvizier

Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 03:34 am:

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peter

Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 02:57 am:

greetings everyone i'm looking for the dubplate
oh jah jah the one shaka plays and dubs
from the 70s and 1980s

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