I see your point also but i was not talking about commercial reggae/dub
but rather about true heartfelt vibes. I personally deal only with music
where I can hear that it was made for the love of it. I know many sounds
are still like this, you can just walk up and hand them a dubplate, if they
like it or approve it they ll play it. Besides that i think the commercial
interest and the "astroturfing" was there in the past as well, even if it has
increased until now. People wanted to earn their living with music also in
the 70s. But this is not always a bad thing, especially today in this
capitalistic world everyone needs the cash to survive. Off course back
then there were also people who did not make the music just to earn
money from it and if you look closely they still exist many artists like this
today.
I agree about the paradigm shift away from reggae sound system culture.
I expressed my self wrongly when i said "big hi powa" systems i did not
mean the ones that try kill you with 50 megawatts of sound power but the
ones that dont play so loud but try to make you feel the vibes of
beautyful music. The ones where the sound of the music gives you a nice
feeling like a massage, not the ones that compete for power & loudness
where your ears and head hurt after a session. I've never been to the
kind of hi powa systems like this and i surely never will, i try supporting
local self built Sounds wherever i go so this kind of sounds i am talking
about, sorry for not making that clear.
About the Astroturfers i dont go to their dances or buy their records (!!!)
but still even if i dont like them and for me they are just sellouts,i dont
think their position in reggae music is undeserved or unjustified, if they
have a lot of people who love their music and they spread positive vibes,
it means that they have worked hard and they do the job well, they sell
their product. And a good thing about some of them is that they CAN lead
people to the real well-hidden treasures.. And even if they are astroturfers
they still can be legendary.
And when i say legendary i mean like a tale, a history about someone, a
myth were you cant know whats true about it but still the legend will be
told even if its not true... Legends exist today. Your machine for example
will be legendary for me if it really works the way it should, so i m gonna
tell the legend to others. But if it dont work it still can be legendary if you
go and tell everyone that it does works, know what i mean? People will
go "once i heard about this dub master called Zutao he had a selfbuild
machine which could turn a dry tune into a real dub without any mixing of
multitrack recordings!!". Thats what i meant by legendary, a
great story
that can be true or a lie..
this one i did not really understand:
Now, it seems to me you can't have both Futurism and Passe-ism
side by side, if it is genuine artistic expression.
anyway

uhm i think we're a liiiiittle bit off topic here
but still a very interesting dub discussion
Peace Yiannis